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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7906841" data-attributes="member: 6966824">This is a really nice analysis, Blue. I was just going to point out that martials still want to invest at least to +2 in their attack stat for AC (more for rogues and monks), whereas warlocks and sorcerers (some of whom may not have anything riding on CHA besides spell attacks and DCs), and to a lesser extent Clerics, Druids and Wizards (who still have spell prep slots based on their casting stat) are free to pump CON and DEX at the expense their casting stat, possibly leaving that at 13 the entire game, taking feats (or further pumping CON/DEX) at 4th and 8th, while rarely being more than one modifier point behind someone who starts with less survivability and maxes their casting stat as early as possible.I'm not sure I'd be too worried about your first point above, though, at least in itself. You can already choose multiclass combinations that share relevant stats, which is one reason why CHA is so powerful in 5e, since there are so many more stat-compatible multiclass options. I think this would give you more variety in viable multiclass options, giving us fewer sorlocks, bardlocks, and sorcadins, etc., with probably a few more wizard and cleric dips.I mean, yes, mathematically, the optimal choices from a less restricted set will be at least as good as the optimal choices from a more restricted set, and so this is going to be some kind of power boost. But still, that part seems fine to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7906841, member: 6966824"] This is a really nice analysis, Blue. I was just going to point out that martials still want to invest at least to +2 in their attack stat for AC (more for rogues and monks), whereas warlocks and sorcerers (some of whom may not have anything riding on CHA besides spell attacks and DCs), and to a lesser extent Clerics, Druids and Wizards (who still have spell prep slots based on their casting stat) are free to pump CON and DEX at the expense their casting stat, possibly leaving that at 13 the entire game, taking feats (or further pumping CON/DEX) at 4th and 8th, while rarely being more than one modifier point behind someone who starts with less survivability and maxes their casting stat as early as possible. I'm not sure I'd be too worried about your first point above, though, at least in itself. You can already choose multiclass combinations that share relevant stats, which is one reason why CHA is so powerful in 5e, since there are so many more stat-compatible multiclass options. I think this would give you more variety in viable multiclass options, giving us fewer sorlocks, bardlocks, and sorcadins, etc., with probably a few more wizard and cleric dips. I mean, yes, mathematically, the optimal choices from a less restricted set will be at least as good as the optimal choices from a more restricted set, and so this is going to be some kind of power boost. But still, that part seems fine to me. [/QUOTE]

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