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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6469373" data-attributes="member: 4937">Proposed wording #1 for Spike Growth:"Any ground-covering vegetation in the spell’s area becomes very hard and sharply pointed without changing its appearance.  In areas of bare earth, roots and rootlets act in the same way. Typically, spike growth can be cast in any outdoor setting except open water, ice, heavy snow, sandy desert, or bare stone.  Each square so effected counts as difficult terrain and any creature of small size or larger that enters the area must pick its way carefully if they are not to take 1d4 piercing damage for each 5’ of travel.  Creatures moving at half-speed must make a DC 15 balance check for each 5’, those at full speed a DC 20, and those that attempt to run automatically take damage.Any creature that takes damage from this spell must also succeed on a Fortitude save to avoid injuries to its feet and legs. A failed save causes the creature’s speed to be reduced to half normal for 24 hours or until the injured creature receives a cure spell (which also restores lost hit points). Another character can remove the penalty by taking 10 minutes to dress the injuries and succeeding on a Heal check against the spell’s save DC. The spike growths are colored so that they blend into the background effectively, and they are not easily seen and practically invisible until a character is almost on top of them.   Characters within 5’ of a field of spike growths are entitled to a DC 20 spot check to observe the danger.   Otherwise, they do not observe their presence until they first impale themselves.   No balance check is allowed until the spikes are observed, and charging or running creatures automatically fail this check, being in any event unable to stop their headlong rush in time.  Creatures within the area of effect of the spell at the time of casting automatically take 1d4 damage."Proposed wording #1 for Spike Stones:"Rocky ground, stone floors, and similar surfaces shape themselves into a bramble of random long, razor sharp stone points as high as 4’ off the ground that impede progress through the area and deal damage.   Each square so effected counts as difficult terrain and any creature of small size or larger that enters the area must pick its way carefully if they are not to take 1d8 piercing damage for each 5’ of travel.  Creatures moving at half-speed must make a DC 15 balance check for each 5’, those at full speed a DC 20, and those that attempt to run automatically take damage.Any creature that takes damage from this spell must also succeed on a Fortitude save to avoid injuries to its feet and legs. A failed save causes the creature’s speed to be reduced to half normal for 24 hours or until the injured creature receives a cure spell (which also restores lost hit points). Another character can remove the penalty by taking 10 minutes to dress the injuries and succeeding on a Heal check against the spell’s save DC. The stone spikes are colored so that they blend into the background effectively, and they are not easily seen and practically invisible until a character is almost on top of them.   Characters within 5’ of a field of stone spikes are entitled to a DC 20 spot check to observe the danger.   Otherwise, they do not observe their presence until they first impale themselves.   No balance check is allowed until the spikes are observed, and charging or running creatures automatically fail this check, being in any event unable to stop their headlong rush in time.  Creatures within the area of effect of the spell at the time of casting automatically take 1d8 damage."The idea being imagined here is more like an undergrowth of spears than a dense carpet of stone nails.  A "dense carpet of nails" however is possible.   That interpretation would to me much more strongly suggest lower damage (akin to caltrops) and suggest a more caltrop like approach to resolution (attacks against AC).</blockquote>

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