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<blockquote data-quote="BriarMonkey" data-source="post: 6021054" data-attributes="member: 95387">Um...&nbsp; No.&nbsp; When you mention that your prior issues with things like house-ruled Gestalt's are too complex, well, you added too complex.&nbsp; As the post prior alludes to - there's confusion in trying to follow your method.&nbsp; I mean, if you have to figure out which class fits into which widget group, and how many levels you've been adjusted, and whether you loose level abilities, but not the actual levels...&nbsp; It's just far and away too much to keep track of.&nbsp; Honestly, I'd never try a multi-class under your system.As well, I think you are severely limiting yourself by holding to what your image of a 1E multi-class should look like.&nbsp; Why not take a step back and identify what it is that you really want - and go from there.I will agree that there are issues with the current system - namely if you are a spell caster.&nbsp; After all, that all important caster level is tied to your class level, not your character level, and that means you give up more for a another class than a fighter or another combat type.For some time, I've been trying to figure out a way to do multi-classing while not penalizing the character so heavily (though, some would argue that is the price of admitance for a wider set of skills).&nbsp; And, for a while I thought Gestalt may work - until I tried to make it work with a test for being single classed, then going Gestalt, then going back to single classed.&nbsp; Yeah, it didn't work.&nbsp; But my basic thought was that single classed characters used the Medium XP track, while Gestalt characters used the Slow XP track.&nbsp; On average, they'd be 1 level behind the single classes.From there, I've started thinking that mayhaps a character would keep a seperate XP track for each class they had (as opposed to a single XP track for all classes).&nbsp; Thus, they could advance as they wished.&nbsp; Character Level would be the sum of all the XPs.&nbsp; Of course, there should be some synergy between classes as far as certain stackings (like for caster levels), otherwise you've not changed anything at all except book keeping.&nbsp; Unfortunately, this is as far as I've gotten in my work - it hasn't been a high priority as I'm not currently running a game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BriarMonkey, post: 6021054, member: 95387"] Um... No. When you mention that your prior issues with things like house-ruled Gestalt's are too complex, well, you added too complex. As the post prior alludes to - there's confusion in trying to follow your method. I mean, if you have to figure out which class fits into which widget group, and how many levels you've been adjusted, and whether you loose level abilities, but not the actual levels... It's just far and away too much to keep track of. Honestly, I'd never try a multi-class under your system. As well, I think you are severely limiting yourself by holding to what your image of a 1E multi-class should look like. Why not take a step back and identify what it is that you really want - and go from there. I will agree that there are issues with the current system - namely if you are a spell caster. After all, that all important caster level is tied to your class level, not your character level, and that means you give up more for a another class than a fighter or another combat type. For some time, I've been trying to figure out a way to do multi-classing while not penalizing the character so heavily (though, some would argue that is the price of admitance for a wider set of skills). And, for a while I thought Gestalt may work - until I tried to make it work with a test for being single classed, then going Gestalt, then going back to single classed. Yeah, it didn't work. But my basic thought was that single classed characters used the Medium XP track, while Gestalt characters used the Slow XP track. On average, they'd be 1 level behind the single classes. From there, I've started thinking that mayhaps a character would keep a seperate XP track for each class they had (as opposed to a single XP track for all classes). Thus, they could advance as they wished. Character Level would be the sum of all the XPs. Of course, there should be some synergy between classes as far as certain stackings (like for caster levels), otherwise you've not changed anything at all except book keeping. Unfortunately, this is as far as I've gotten in my work - it hasn't been a high priority as I'm not currently running a game. [/QUOTE]

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