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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kupursk" data-source="post: 7560065" data-attributes="member: 6986037">That's very much true. In earlier editions most of the numerical values came directly from class (THAC0 or Base Attack, % based Thief skills in 2e, Skill ranks in general in 3e), with the contribution from abilities being much smaller. In 5e the ability modifier a lot more relevant to your checks, so making for instance a high-Int low-Str Fighter just because you want to, will be a bigger drawback to your class than in 2e or 3e. (Or at least I suppose so, haven't really tried yet to know for certain.)But that's why I was hoping for a house-rule that could compensate for the lack of higher ability scores and still be viable.Reading your comment gave me a weird new idea, though... I could keep the "increases" but only raise the modifier and not the ability score. For example:* Fighter starts at Str 16 (+3)* At the appropriate level he receives a +1 increase to one modifier instead of +2 to an ability score.* He choses Str and now has a value of 16 (+4)* For most relevant class-related checks he'd use the increased modifier: to-hit, damage, athletics, etc.* However when checking for raw brute strength (like lifting a big rock) or to calculate Encumbrance, he'd still only use the original 1d20+3 from his Str 16.Basically whenever making a pure attribute check, use the original value with its original modifier (equivalent of rolling-under for general ability checks in 2e). And whenever the ability is used to modify a skill, attack, DC or whatever, use the increased modifier instead.Any thoughts on this idea?</blockquote>

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