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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7268455" data-attributes="member: 6802951">Bear in mind that as long as you didn't dump the relevant ability score, being proficient allows you to keep up with people much more naturally gifted than you are. Outside the adventuring community, people with unusually high ability scores tend to be rare in most games. Not a fan. Your intellect may give you the technique that allows you to keep up with someone untrained but much more naturally gifted than you. But its not going to win you that race against someone with reasonable technique who is also much more naturally athletic than you are. No matter how bright you are, if you have the muscle tone of a soufflé and get winded climbing into bed, you're not going to win athletic competitions.</blockquote>