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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Black Knight Irios" data-source="post: 5253271" data-attributes="member: 8853">The more factors you ignore the easier it gets to assess something.So you say every party should have a leader - most parties probably have a leader indeed. But which leader do they have? It's not like there is only one leader type that hands out attack bonus buffs and defense bonus buffs.What kind of leader can you assume that every party has.Furthermore, if buffing is dependent on a hit by the leader the harder it is to land the hit the smaller are the chances of the buff being applied.The same goes for all powers. But dailies are special again. To estimate their usefulness you have to establish a framework for encounter/day, the difficulty of the encounters and so on.WotC CharOp has tried more than once to build a system to rate chars besides at-will dpr. But they've failed so far b/c it is hard to come up with good estimations that everyone agrees to. This is something similar. You want to take into account "elements/powers/etc." that can't be taken as granted for every group.If you really want to try and build a system that can evaluate the correctness of  4E math with all those additionla factors you will have a hard time. And even if you succeed it doesn't mean people will not ignore your anylsis b/c they don't agree with your assumptions.</blockquote>