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How a DM can counter cheesy PC tactics w/o using cheesy DM tactics.
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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 503716" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>A couple corrections: </p><p></p><p>First, if you're blind, you don't threaten the area around you. (I think -- I'm having trouble finding a rules-cite on this, so I could be wrong).</p><p></p><p>Scent is almost as good as blindsight, except that it doesn't eliminate the 50% miss chance, and it takes either a MEA or a standard action to use.</p><p></p><p>Blindsight + Darkness is a tactic one of my players used to great effect, once. It was such an uberpowerful tactic that I banned the spell blindsight from my campaign; the player who used the the tactic agreed. For the cost of a second and a third level spell, one character gets a power that is in many ways superior to a fourth-level spell: it's got a much longer duration than improved invisibility, it halves opponent's movement speed, reduces their dex and str for most checks, and prevents them from targeting your friends. In exchange, of course, it can't be used for stealth, and it can mess up your allies if you don't use it wisely.</p><p></p><p>I'd suggest you either reduce blindsight's duration to 1 minute (or even 1 round) per level, or else you increase its level to 5 or higher -- or else get rid of the spell entirely. The spell's designers probably weren't thinking about how it worked in connection with a darkness spell, or if they were, they were hitting the bong pretty heavily that night.</p><p></p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 503716, member: 259"] A couple corrections: First, if you're blind, you don't threaten the area around you. (I think -- I'm having trouble finding a rules-cite on this, so I could be wrong). Scent is almost as good as blindsight, except that it doesn't eliminate the 50% miss chance, and it takes either a MEA or a standard action to use. Blindsight + Darkness is a tactic one of my players used to great effect, once. It was such an uberpowerful tactic that I banned the spell blindsight from my campaign; the player who used the the tactic agreed. For the cost of a second and a third level spell, one character gets a power that is in many ways superior to a fourth-level spell: it's got a much longer duration than improved invisibility, it halves opponent's movement speed, reduces their dex and str for most checks, and prevents them from targeting your friends. In exchange, of course, it can't be used for stealth, and it can mess up your allies if you don't use it wisely. I'd suggest you either reduce blindsight's duration to 1 minute (or even 1 round) per level, or else you increase its level to 5 or higher -- or else get rid of the spell entirely. The spell's designers probably weren't thinking about how it worked in connection with a darkness spell, or if they were, they were hitting the bong pretty heavily that night. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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