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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 505667" data-attributes="member: 224">Alrighty then, let's put it a diferrent way:&nbsp; Surely a spell that duplicates some other creature's extrodinary ability is not out of line?&nbsp; (That is, it's not something that &quot;cannot be duplicated by magic&quot;.)Draconian usually implies harsh and unreasonable.&nbsp; I think banning the spell outright falls into that catagory.&nbsp; I stated that bumping the spell up a level or two would be preferable.&nbsp;&nbsp; ....I think you might even agree with this last bit.And yes, of course you don't have to accept at face-value whatever is in a splatbook.&nbsp; Come on, we're not a bunch of 1st graders listening to a spelling lesson here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />BTW, banning th' spell only removes the tactic from th' PCs -- it would still be very useable by the NPCs......why aren't all the bad guys with blindsight doing this?&nbsp;&nbsp; Oh, they are?&nbsp; Great.....so how do the players feel about that?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 505667, member: 224"] Alrighty then, let's put it a diferrent way: Surely a spell that duplicates some other creature's extrodinary ability is not out of line? (That is, it's not something that "cannot be duplicated by magic".) [i]Draconian[/i] usually implies harsh and unreasonable. I think banning the spell outright falls into that catagory. I stated that bumping the spell up a level or two would be preferable. ....I think you might even agree with this last bit. And yes, of course you don't have to accept at face-value whatever is in a splatbook. Come on, we're not a bunch of 1st graders listening to a spelling lesson here. :rolleyes: BTW, banning th' spell only removes the tactic from th' PCs -- it would still be [u]very[/u] useable by the NPCs......why aren't all the bad guys with blindsight doing this? Oh, they are? Great.....so how do the players feel about that? [/QUOTE]

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