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How a DM can counter cheesy PC tactics w/o using cheesy DM tactics.
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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 505689" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>Actually, I used versions of this tactic twice on my PCs as a DM:</p><p></p><p>1) Once, a grimlock assassin cast darkness before going into battle. Since one of the PCs always keeps a daylight spell memorized, it didn't have much effect.</p><p>2) Once, a cleric/ranger trained a bunch of dogs in a specialized fighting style: before releasing them, he cast darkness on one and silence on another. They fought primarily by scent, and nearly killed a PC before another one had the brilliant idea of lobbing a stinkbomb into the middle of their group.</p><p></p><p>The players enjoyed both battles. The difference between blindsight creatures using this tactic and players using this tactic is monotony: the monsters will probably only be involved in one game session, whereas the players will be involved in a lot.</p><p></p><p>This tactic will have a tendency to make many battles look the same, and they will tend to make one PC the star of most battles. Neither of these is a good thing: battles should ideally all be different and weird, and different PCs should get a chance to shine in different battles.</p><p></p><p>That's why I as a DM don't want the PCs to have easy access to this tactic: if they do, it'll lesson the fun for the players.</p><p></p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 505689, member: 259"] Actually, I used versions of this tactic twice on my PCs as a DM: 1) Once, a grimlock assassin cast darkness before going into battle. Since one of the PCs always keeps a daylight spell memorized, it didn't have much effect. 2) Once, a cleric/ranger trained a bunch of dogs in a specialized fighting style: before releasing them, he cast darkness on one and silence on another. They fought primarily by scent, and nearly killed a PC before another one had the brilliant idea of lobbing a stinkbomb into the middle of their group. The players enjoyed both battles. The difference between blindsight creatures using this tactic and players using this tactic is monotony: the monsters will probably only be involved in one game session, whereas the players will be involved in a lot. This tactic will have a tendency to make many battles look the same, and they will tend to make one PC the star of most battles. Neither of these is a good thing: battles should ideally all be different and weird, and different PCs should get a chance to shine in different battles. That's why I as a DM don't want the PCs to have easy access to this tactic: if they do, it'll lesson the fun for the players. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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