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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 505850" data-attributes="member: 2572">You are right they are not always an option, but then sometimes they are. I was not trying to give the only option, but hopefully showing that cheesy tricks can be countered by good tactics. Your wolf idea is good, but this is not a recurring PC tactic but a 1 time DM tactic. As for battles having consequences, yes they should for the big ones, but shouldn't there be some lead up and battles with henchmen first, and wouldn't some of the henchen have heard of the party and its tactics or a least have a couple of escapees who can report back?No not all villians will have spellcasters, but most should. How many villians will not have at least 1 as a henchman, considering how usefull they are especially in a world where there is so much of it. I could also come up with a list of other classes and monsters that get around this enough partially to threaten the party that there should be little chance of repetition in encounters. These can also be used as the big villians henchman. Now if you are giving the Rogue fly as well, I would start getting iritaded as a player if the wizard is spending all of his spell slots to buff just one player all the time. As a foe to the party just a couple of times with dispell magic on the Rogue and we might teach the spellcaster a lesson in putting all his spells on one person.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brown Jenkin, post: 505850, member: 2572"] You are right they are not always an option, but then sometimes they are. I was not trying to give the only option, but hopefully showing that cheesy tricks can be countered by good tactics. Your wolf idea is good, but this is not a recurring PC tactic but a 1 time DM tactic. As for battles having consequences, yes they should for the big ones, but shouldn't there be some lead up and battles with henchmen first, and wouldn't some of the henchen have heard of the party and its tactics or a least have a couple of escapees who can report back? No not all villians will have spellcasters, but most should. How many villians will not have at least 1 as a henchman, considering how usefull they are especially in a world where there is so much of it. I could also come up with a list of other classes and monsters that get around this enough partially to threaten the party that there should be little chance of repetition in encounters. These can also be used as the big villians henchman. Now if you are giving the Rogue fly as well, I would start getting iritaded as a player if the wizard is spending all of his spell slots to buff just one player all the time. As a foe to the party just a couple of times with dispell magic on the Rogue and we might teach the spellcaster a lesson in putting all his spells on one person. [/QUOTE]

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