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How a DM can counter cheesy PC tactics w/o using cheesy DM tactics.
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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 507823" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>I've seen this tactic in use several times, and it is indeed nasty. I'm not just talking theory here.</p><p></p><p>And FYI, I don't allow the druid feat, either. It's got the same problems.</p><p></p><p>Dispel isn't a great counter for this tactic: since you can't target what you can't see, you can only cast it as an AoE spell. If you don't catch the center of the darkness effect, at best you create a small area with light in it -- and since darkness is an emanation, I believe the darkness would fill the area back up next round.</p><p></p><p>And not all spellcasters will be prepared for this tactic, and not all enemies have spellcasters.</p><p></p><p>It's not infallible -- no tactic is -- but IME, it's way overpowered, and my players agreed that the game would be more fun if it weren't an option.</p><p></p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 507823, member: 259"] I've seen this tactic in use several times, and it is indeed nasty. I'm not just talking theory here. And FYI, I don't allow the druid feat, either. It's got the same problems. Dispel isn't a great counter for this tactic: since you can't target what you can't see, you can only cast it as an AoE spell. If you don't catch the center of the darkness effect, at best you create a small area with light in it -- and since darkness is an emanation, I believe the darkness would fill the area back up next round. And not all spellcasters will be prepared for this tactic, and not all enemies have spellcasters. It's not infallible -- no tactic is -- but IME, it's way overpowered, and my players agreed that the game would be more fun if it weren't an option. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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