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How a DM can counter cheesy PC tactics w/o using cheesy DM tactics.
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<blockquote data-quote="Enkhidu" data-source="post: 508382" data-attributes="member: 351"><p>I've got a minor quibble with this, as Blindsight is a FR spell, and was therefore not accounted for in the original rules set. If you really want to play "by the book," my suggestion is that you not use material other than that which you can find in the core books. In fact, the entire FR campaign world is on average more magical and more powerful than the default campaign setting (as shown by the fact that FR characters are built using a 32 point buy instead of a 25 point buy - the extra power is built right in to the setting).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Try this then...</p><p></p><p>If you are playing in the Forgotten Realms (or another campaign setting equally rich in magic), then the entire campaign is built around the power level assumed by the spells you are using with this tactic, and others will be just as capable, and likely, of using these and similar tactics to the same advantage as the party. In other words, at about the same time as the group hits the right level to use this tactic, their enemies will also be using this tactic. </p><p></p><p>In my opinion, the best way to stop cheesy tactics is to place the party on the receiving end of them at least once. After all, the party is probably not the first group to come up with this particualr combo.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Enkhidu, post: 508382, member: 351"] I've got a minor quibble with this, as Blindsight is a FR spell, and was therefore not accounted for in the original rules set. If you really want to play "by the book," my suggestion is that you not use material other than that which you can find in the core books. In fact, the entire FR campaign world is on average more magical and more powerful than the default campaign setting (as shown by the fact that FR characters are built using a 32 point buy instead of a 25 point buy - the extra power is built right in to the setting). Try this then... If you are playing in the Forgotten Realms (or another campaign setting equally rich in magic), then the entire campaign is built around the power level assumed by the spells you are using with this tactic, and others will be just as capable, and likely, of using these and similar tactics to the same advantage as the party. In other words, at about the same time as the group hits the right level to use this tactic, their enemies will also be using this tactic. In my opinion, the best way to stop cheesy tactics is to place the party on the receiving end of them at least once. After all, the party is probably not the first group to come up with this particualr combo. [/QUOTE]
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