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How a DM can counter cheesy PC tactics w/o using cheesy DM tactics.
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<blockquote data-quote="Drunken_Master" data-source="post: 511401" data-attributes="member: 9084"><p>Well first of all, as a DM I have everyone that can't see in the dark close their eyes. If ever they move out of the darkened area or the dark area disappears, I tell that individual to open his eyes... An ogre that is in a dark area without Blindsight is likely to go berserk (ex. move in random directions swinging around his club yelling like a mad ogre!) Why you ask? Imagine if you were to suddenly go blind... how would you feel? Imagine you had an intelligence of 6 or what ever an ogre has... I don't allow a rogue to use a sneak attack using her blindsight... Sure the rogue uses his 6th sense to know where his enemy is, but how does he know where his critical spots are... Also, the ogre going about like a mad ogre has a chance of hitting what's around him using the rules for hitting an invisible target with a -4 circumstance bonus since he's not really conscious of what might be there.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that the rest of the party is affected by darkness, and although this tactic might work, Role play wise it shouldn't happen too often... If I were a player, let's say Barbarian or Fighter for example, I wouldn't like the idea of the Rogue getting in on all the action...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Drunken_Master, post: 511401, member: 9084"] Well first of all, as a DM I have everyone that can't see in the dark close their eyes. If ever they move out of the darkened area or the dark area disappears, I tell that individual to open his eyes... An ogre that is in a dark area without Blindsight is likely to go berserk (ex. move in random directions swinging around his club yelling like a mad ogre!) Why you ask? Imagine if you were to suddenly go blind... how would you feel? Imagine you had an intelligence of 6 or what ever an ogre has... I don't allow a rogue to use a sneak attack using her blindsight... Sure the rogue uses his 6th sense to know where his enemy is, but how does he know where his critical spots are... Also, the ogre going about like a mad ogre has a chance of hitting what's around him using the rules for hitting an invisible target with a -4 circumstance bonus since he's not really conscious of what might be there. Keep in mind that the rest of the party is affected by darkness, and although this tactic might work, Role play wise it shouldn't happen too often... If I were a player, let's say Barbarian or Fighter for example, I wouldn't like the idea of the Rogue getting in on all the action... [/QUOTE]
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