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How a DM can counter cheesy PC tactics w/o using cheesy DM tactics.
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<blockquote data-quote="dkilgo" data-source="post: 511855" data-attributes="member: 8967"><p>Using this tactic all the time IS cheesy.</p><p></p><p>I had a character that, until recently, had a cloak of improved invisibility. He could only use for 10 rounds a day and it was command word activated. He also had boots of speed which gave him that nice +4 to AC, and the extra partial action. Oh, did I mention that he was a rogue. These items are not unreasonable for any character, but...</p><p></p><p>But, everytime combat came around he imidiately activated his boots, and went invisible. By moving silently he was able to move around and slaughter just about any creature he encountered. Heck, he faced 5 fiendish trolls with one other party member, and wiped the floor with them. Ask kreynolds, it was nasty.</p><p></p><p>Eventually the whole tactic got really boring because combat became very monotinous, and kreynolds was not having much fun tryig to counter this tactic. Granted it is not entirely difficult to counter this, but due to the campaign situations it was. </p><p></p><p>I eventually gave up the tactic because the fun had been stripped from the game at the time. It was an abuse of a priviledge, and a mistake that will, hopefully, never happen again. </p><p></p><p>Think on that. You might think that this tactic is fun at the moment, but eventually you will end up just like me. I was missing the fun in the whole game.</p><p></p><p>All I am trying to say is that maybe you need to come up with more varied tactics that keep the spice in the game. The game is not always about winning every battle. It is about how you went about it, and the roleplay involved. </p><p></p><p>Have fun!</p><p></p><p>P.S.</p><p> If you want something cheesy try having an amulet of heal that is command word activated, and can be used unlimited times per day. Costly, but also cheesy. The DM is still kicking himself in the backside for that one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dkilgo, post: 511855, member: 8967"] Using this tactic all the time IS cheesy. I had a character that, until recently, had a cloak of improved invisibility. He could only use for 10 rounds a day and it was command word activated. He also had boots of speed which gave him that nice +4 to AC, and the extra partial action. Oh, did I mention that he was a rogue. These items are not unreasonable for any character, but... But, everytime combat came around he imidiately activated his boots, and went invisible. By moving silently he was able to move around and slaughter just about any creature he encountered. Heck, he faced 5 fiendish trolls with one other party member, and wiped the floor with them. Ask kreynolds, it was nasty. Eventually the whole tactic got really boring because combat became very monotinous, and kreynolds was not having much fun tryig to counter this tactic. Granted it is not entirely difficult to counter this, but due to the campaign situations it was. I eventually gave up the tactic because the fun had been stripped from the game at the time. It was an abuse of a priviledge, and a mistake that will, hopefully, never happen again. Think on that. You might think that this tactic is fun at the moment, but eventually you will end up just like me. I was missing the fun in the whole game. All I am trying to say is that maybe you need to come up with more varied tactics that keep the spice in the game. The game is not always about winning every battle. It is about how you went about it, and the roleplay involved. Have fun! P.S. If you want something cheesy try having an amulet of heal that is command word activated, and can be used unlimited times per day. Costly, but also cheesy. The DM is still kicking himself in the backside for that one. [/QUOTE]
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