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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 5713079" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>First off, a handful of your notes on busted spells are dead wrong - for instance: Simulacrum is an Instant spell, not a Permanent one - which means that after the time wears off... there is no aura of illusion anymore.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, a handful of your notes on busted spells are partially wrong - for instance: mirror image only lets the caster of Arcane Sight know what's up; everyone else still has to suck up the miss chance. </p><p></p><p>Additionally, the vast majority of these bustings depend on a particular DM interpretation - that knowing there's an aura of illusion about meets the 'no save required' clause in will disbelief; this is not necessarily true, and will vary by DM.</p><p></p><p>Further, you can foil a lot of things with other spells and simple tactics; <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicAura.htm" target="_blank">Magic Aura</a> will change the aura of items, and <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/misdirection.htm" target="_blank">Misdirection</a> will do it for yourself or creatures (with no save to either, I might add). The combination lets you have any magical aura you want (set a nearby rock to the aura you'd like via Magic Aura, give that to yourself via Misdirection), and have anyone else have any magical aura you want (same method, but you cast Misdirection on the other person). What good is it knowing who all has an aura of illusion on them when almost everyone does? </p><p></p><p>Finally, there's a number of ways to beat divinations - <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/nondetection.htm" target="_blank">Nondetection</a> specifically opposes "detect spells", the Insidious Magic feat (Player's Guide to Faerun), and probably a few other methods will do so.</p><p></p><p>So really, the issue isn't "Detect magic is Uber!" it's "Spellcasters play chess when they're opposing each other, and you're not sufficiently familiar with the rules of the game to work the illusion angle properly when opposing another spellcaster"</p><p></p><p>Edit: Oh yes, and there's a number of non-sneaky items that have an aura of illusion about them - the Cloak of Displacement (lesser or greater), the Elixer of Swimming, or the Robe of Scintillating Colors. Just because someone is carrying an aura of illusion does not mean they're not who they say they are.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 5713079, member: 29252"] First off, a handful of your notes on busted spells are dead wrong - for instance: Simulacrum is an Instant spell, not a Permanent one - which means that after the time wears off... there is no aura of illusion anymore. Secondly, a handful of your notes on busted spells are partially wrong - for instance: mirror image only lets the caster of Arcane Sight know what's up; everyone else still has to suck up the miss chance. Additionally, the vast majority of these bustings depend on a particular DM interpretation - that knowing there's an aura of illusion about meets the 'no save required' clause in will disbelief; this is not necessarily true, and will vary by DM. Further, you can foil a lot of things with other spells and simple tactics; [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicAura.htm]Magic Aura[/url] will change the aura of items, and [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/misdirection.htm]Misdirection[/url] will do it for yourself or creatures (with no save to either, I might add). The combination lets you have any magical aura you want (set a nearby rock to the aura you'd like via Magic Aura, give that to yourself via Misdirection), and have anyone else have any magical aura you want (same method, but you cast Misdirection on the other person). What good is it knowing who all has an aura of illusion on them when almost everyone does? Finally, there's a number of ways to beat divinations - [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/nondetection.htm]Nondetection[/url] specifically opposes "detect spells", the Insidious Magic feat (Player's Guide to Faerun), and probably a few other methods will do so. So really, the issue isn't "Detect magic is Uber!" it's "Spellcasters play chess when they're opposing each other, and you're not sufficiently familiar with the rules of the game to work the illusion angle properly when opposing another spellcaster" Edit: Oh yes, and there's a number of non-sneaky items that have an aura of illusion about them - the Cloak of Displacement (lesser or greater), the Elixer of Swimming, or the Robe of Scintillating Colors. Just because someone is carrying an aura of illusion does not mean they're not who they say they are. [/QUOTE]
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