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<blockquote data-quote="cjosephs1s" data-source="post: 5714227" data-attributes="member: 6683450"><p>Well this is where I'm using logic and not just the rules.&nbsp; Ok..So your saying that most illusions are real?&nbsp; If they are real then they shouldn't be illusions now should they?&nbsp; They should be conjurations (such as mage hand) or evocations (such as fireball).&nbsp; But they aren't real and thus not really there.&nbsp; Of if they are then the rules contradict themselves, logic, magic, and physics.&nbsp; How can something be there and not be there but have an effect on the world around it if its not there but is there?&nbsp;&nbsp; Is this what you are saying?&nbsp; This is the part that I can't comprehend.&nbsp; I'm not fooling myself.&nbsp; I'm just not a supergenious and able to understand how to break all the rules all at once and still have something work.&nbsp; So i've found a solution to my problem (and yours) that does make sense, it works, it follows a line of logic better than most, still allows physics to works and still allows the rules to function just fine and is relatively simple.&nbsp; Or you can disregard the school of Illusion magic?&nbsp; Make more sense now?</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="cjosephs1s, post: 5714227, member: 6683450"] Well this is where I'm using logic and not just the rules. Ok..So your saying that most illusions are real? If they are real then they shouldn't be illusions now should they? They should be conjurations (such as mage hand) or evocations (such as fireball). But they aren't real and thus not really there. Of if they are then the rules contradict themselves, logic, magic, and physics. How can something be there and not be there but have an effect on the world around it if its not there but is there? Is this what you are saying? This is the part that I can't comprehend. I'm not fooling myself. I'm just not a supergenious and able to understand how to break all the rules all at once and still have something work. So i've found a solution to my problem (and yours) that does make sense, it works, it follows a line of logic better than most, still allows physics to works and still allows the rules to function just fine and is relatively simple. Or you can disregard the school of Illusion magic? Make more sense now? [/QUOTE]

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