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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5720317" data-attributes="member: 95493">No.They are saying (or not saying) a 0 level spell is overpowered when used as an anti-illusionist spell.Okay, let me break this into parts, even knowing what I'm saying may be partially wrong. Using detect magic requires the following, taken directly from the PHB not the SRD, in order to defeat illusions.1) Detect Magic lasts as long as you concentrate to a maximum of 1min/level. This means that you have to using the spell, every round or else it dispels. How many is the wizard preparing a day? The wizard is also going to go as slowly as the rogue is checking every 10 feet for traps. Slower still if he FINDS a spell.2) It is a 60 foot cone. Anything outside of where he directly looking isn't seen. If he isn't TRYING to look at that illusory floor he'll fall right through it while battling the illusory dragon.3) If he finds a spell in his vision then he has to spend the first round realizing it is magic. He then spends the next round finding out HOW MANY auras. He spends his third round finding each aura and then using a spellcraft check (which he may fail) DC 15 + spell level. More still he only gets that it is an illusion.3b) Granted higher level casters will make this without fail. Those same higher level casters will have true seeing, see invisibility and arcane sight. 3c) Lower level casters may not make the spellcraft DC (especially against higher level spells) and won't know its an illusion anymore than if they were conjurations.4) What type of illusion? Phantasm or Figment? Safe or deadly.5) Yes, that square has an illusion. Is it a modified appearance, an invisible person with an illusory double, a fake dragon, a concealed floor, etc. Detect Magic doesn't tell you.6) There is nothing in Detect Magic which says it "interacts" with illusions (giving them an autosave). There is nothing that says the +4 bonus that people appear willing to give it either. I'd take the +4 while you can.6b) It seems clear to me that this would have been fixed after several versions of the game. At least it should have come up in the years since 3e was released enough to get a line in the Pathfinder rules (in this circumstance PF is 3.75).7) While the wizard is using detect magic he can't do other things.</blockquote>

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