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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5721520" data-attributes="member: 78958">Quite apart from the topic at hand (which has indeed been discussed to death), I'll just have to say that neither D&D nor soccer work that way. In D&D, it's a well-established fact that defensive options have a hard time outweighing offensive options - especially when it comes to winning an encounter. Sure, you can expend your standard actions on ways to not get hit easily, but those won't win you the fight. Moreover, it's much better to take your opponents out before they do the same to you, due to the way D&D works: attack bonuses outstrip AC bonuses, lots of offensive effects have no save, no SR (or still have partial effects if a save is made), etc.Similarly, in soccer you don't win games if you don't score goals. Germany, for example, has a weak defense, but a great offense. Hence their handy win over Brazil in August. The result was 3:2, but that doesn't reflect the fact how superior Germany played. Their weak defense still made two goals possible for B. - but never would B. have won the game the way they played.</blockquote>