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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4566783" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Mr. The Rouse, thank you for the update.</p><p></p><p>If there is anyone who dislikes the GSL as-is more than I do, I have yet to meet him. I am pro-OGL all the way. I am not a big fan of 4e as written, and I admit I would have liked to have seen a 3pp rewrite.</p><p></p><p>And, yet, even I recognize that trying to give WotC a deadline at this point is a bad, bad idea. In fact, it is IMHO, a worse idea than the current GSL. </p><p></p><p>3pp are using the GSL as-is on the basis of good faith and the promise of revision, and I'm guessing that some of them at least (Clark at Necromancer, if no one else) has some idea what the revision will look like. Attempts to strong-arm WotC are only going to push the GSL revision back. An OGL 4e-clone would <em><strong>really</strong></em> push the revision back......certainly it would give the Legal Department something more important to deal with.</p><p></p><p>Mr. The Rouse hasn't hidden from his responsibilities IMHO. Rather, he has taken them on manfully. He ought to be applauded for the same. He has ensured that several 3pp are comfortable enough with what the revision will look like that they have begun producing material for 4e. This isn't a minor accomplishment.</p><p></p><p>The most recent issue of Dragon Roots (<a href="http://www.dragonroots.net" target="_blank">DRAGON ROOTS</a>) came out with both 3.5 and 4e content because WotC is willing to work with 3pp. Again, it is my understanding that Mr. The Rouse deserves real kudos for his involvement.</p><p></p><p>Even though I am not a 4e player, I recognize that there is a lot of good in the ruleset, and it has made a lot of people happy. The design team merged their ideas of "smart play" and "satisfying play" extremely well, so if you find the sort of game they're offering satisfying, the rules won't get in your way. This is definitely praiseworthy. </p><p></p><p>Again, Kudos.</p><p></p><p>Mr. The Rouse, should you ever be in Toronto, I'll buy you a beer too. Yours is a thankless job. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4566783, member: 18280"] Mr. The Rouse, thank you for the update. If there is anyone who dislikes the GSL as-is more than I do, I have yet to meet him. I am pro-OGL all the way. I am not a big fan of 4e as written, and I admit I would have liked to have seen a 3pp rewrite. And, yet, even I recognize that trying to give WotC a deadline at this point is a bad, bad idea. In fact, it is IMHO, a worse idea than the current GSL. 3pp are using the GSL as-is on the basis of good faith and the promise of revision, and I'm guessing that some of them at least (Clark at Necromancer, if no one else) has some idea what the revision will look like. Attempts to strong-arm WotC are only going to push the GSL revision back. An OGL 4e-clone would [i][b]really[/b][/i][b][/b] push the revision back......certainly it would give the Legal Department something more important to deal with. Mr. The Rouse hasn't hidden from his responsibilities IMHO. Rather, he has taken them on manfully. He ought to be applauded for the same. He has ensured that several 3pp are comfortable enough with what the revision will look like that they have begun producing material for 4e. This isn't a minor accomplishment. The most recent issue of Dragon Roots ([url=http://www.dragonroots.net]DRAGON ROOTS[/url]) came out with both 3.5 and 4e content because WotC is willing to work with 3pp. Again, it is my understanding that Mr. The Rouse deserves real kudos for his involvement. Even though I am not a 4e player, I recognize that there is a lot of good in the ruleset, and it has made a lot of people happy. The design team merged their ideas of "smart play" and "satisfying play" extremely well, so if you find the sort of game they're offering satisfying, the rules won't get in your way. This is definitely praiseworthy. Again, Kudos. Mr. The Rouse, should you ever be in Toronto, I'll buy you a beer too. Yours is a thankless job. ;) RC [/QUOTE]
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