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<blockquote data-quote="Bran Blackbyrd" data-source="post: 383746" data-attributes="member: 1710"><p><strong>Re: back to the subject at hand...</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>26 here. Since the majority of the people polled like the new halfling I would say that WotC would have missed out by NOT retooling the halflings. So would the people who prefer the new halfling to the old ones. You grognards really don't think that anyone else should have a turn, huh?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, the kender reference isn't relevant if you never knew about the kender in the first place. Also, Tolkien fans should NOT be catered to by WotC, D&D fans should be. And even then cater is a bit strong. People who have become Tolkien fans since the release of the movie haven't been excluded either. The halflings in the movie aren't the pot-bellied, ruddy faced cherubs that have always been portrayed as correect. Thus, the 3E halfling isn't so out of line with what people saw on screen.</p><p>I would hazard a guess that new Tolkien fans don't have the same preconceived, prejudicial notions about halflings that the staid, firmly entrenched "old guard" have. Just a guess.</p><p>D&D doesn't NEED Tolkien fans, it needs D&D fans. If those people like Tolkien too, hey, great.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obviously some of the old guard wanted a change. I know I did. Tradition is also synonymous with stagnation. Surely with 20+ years of material with the old halflings you can envision your 3E halfling with the characteristics of the old halflings.</p><p>One might think that after holding the ball for over two decades it would be a tad greedy not to pass it to someone else. <em>Of course not, we wouldn't want to <strong>annoy</strong> the old guard.</em></p><p></p><p>I give you full credit for at least saying that the new halflings could have been included, as well as the old. After all this time though, don't you think people already know how the old halflings work? The old haflings, if included at all would be a short addendum at best.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ugh, this part of my post got cut off.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah yes, believability, the hallmark of fantasy, D&D especially.</p><p>I don't play rpgs because of the way they accurately simulate real life. For anyone to do so would be a big mistake.</p><p>Halflings may be the size of a human 3 year old, but they are not human 3 year olds. They aren't human. They might have a different skeletal system and musculature. If their weight bothers you that much, change it in your game, no one is going to stop you.</p><p>Dragons can produce viable offspring with nearly anything in the Monster Manual, is that realistic? Do you care if it is or not?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bran Blackbyrd, post: 383746, member: 1710"] [b]Re: back to the subject at hand...[/b] 26 here. Since the majority of the people polled like the new halfling I would say that WotC would have missed out by NOT retooling the halflings. So would the people who prefer the new halfling to the old ones. You grognards really don't think that anyone else should have a turn, huh? Once again, the kender reference isn't relevant if you never knew about the kender in the first place. Also, Tolkien fans should NOT be catered to by WotC, D&D fans should be. And even then cater is a bit strong. People who have become Tolkien fans since the release of the movie haven't been excluded either. The halflings in the movie aren't the pot-bellied, ruddy faced cherubs that have always been portrayed as correect. Thus, the 3E halfling isn't so out of line with what people saw on screen. I would hazard a guess that new Tolkien fans don't have the same preconceived, prejudicial notions about halflings that the staid, firmly entrenched "old guard" have. Just a guess. D&D doesn't NEED Tolkien fans, it needs D&D fans. If those people like Tolkien too, hey, great. Obviously some of the old guard wanted a change. I know I did. Tradition is also synonymous with stagnation. Surely with 20+ years of material with the old halflings you can envision your 3E halfling with the characteristics of the old halflings. One might think that after holding the ball for over two decades it would be a tad greedy not to pass it to someone else. [i]Of course not, we wouldn't want to [b]annoy[/b] the old guard.[/i] I give you full credit for at least saying that the new halflings could have been included, as well as the old. After all this time though, don't you think people already know how the old halflings work? The old haflings, if included at all would be a short addendum at best. Ugh, this part of my post got cut off. Ah yes, believability, the hallmark of fantasy, D&D especially. I don't play rpgs because of the way they accurately simulate real life. For anyone to do so would be a big mistake. Halflings may be the size of a human 3 year old, but they are not human 3 year olds. They aren't human. They might have a different skeletal system and musculature. If their weight bothers you that much, change it in your game, no one is going to stop you. Dragons can produce viable offspring with nearly anything in the Monster Manual, is that realistic? Do you care if it is or not? [/QUOTE]
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