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<blockquote data-quote="Winterthorn" data-source="post: 384932" data-attributes="member: 1702"><p><strong>Well, the poll's almost closed...</strong></p><p></p><p>Geez, I never imagined I'd cause all that "hallabaloo". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p><p>And that flame fest. Eeeew. Someone *hong* kept their head! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>My apologies for causing the fuss. I had hoped to find out how ppl felt. Usually we are quite civil around ENWorld--and most of you folks were here too--I did not anticipate such strong feelings about ppl's taste for a race only 3 feet tall :smirk: (Okay, I'm being mischevious there--I'm expecting hordes of halflings will sack my apartment any day now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> )</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I ultimately wished to know if there was a "generation gap" regarding ppl's tastes; the 3E version of the halfling being quite different in "concept" from the earlier incarnations we're used to. Personally, I am not wild about the 3E halfling, primarily because I am so accustomed to the "hobbitish" version. Additionally, the "new" version seems even less distinct from being "pint sized" humans than the Tolkienesque model. Nonetheless I certainly wouldn't impose either version upon my players--and I will probably offer the "hobbit" as a cultural variant to the 3E halfling. Perhaps a cultural/regional feat will make the distictions more mechanically interesting--I'll have to think about that. (Feat? Feet? There's a pun I've missed <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> )</p><p></p><p>Ooops! I forgot the poll results so far:</p><p></p><p>For the age group 20 years or less (mostly "newbie" D&Ders) there's no significant difference in their taste between the 3E halfling and the pseudo-hobbit "of old" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Approx 1:1.</p><p></p><p>Those 20-30 years of age we see the most dramatic difference! I imagine these D&Ders have significant knowledge of 2E and a fair degree of exposure to 1E even. Yet the numbers show a clear preference in the ENWorld community for the 3E halfling! Approx 3:1.</p><p></p><p>The last group is really interesting. Older D&Ders (those over 30 years old) are less enthused by the 3E halfling than the 20-something crowd, <strong>yet they also prefer</strong> the new 3E halfling from the old "hobbit"! Approx 2:1</p><p></p><p>I don't quite know what to make of it all. It seems young players don't really care due to lack of exposure to the "hobbit"? That the oldest crowd still liked the change to 3E suggests to me the change was more than welcome...</p><p></p><p>BTW: thanks to those who piped in on the history of Tolkien's hobbits and those old english references to "hob-"; quite informative. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>-W.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Winterthorn, post: 384932, member: 1702"] [b]Well, the poll's almost closed...[/b] Geez, I never imagined I'd cause all that "hallabaloo". :o And that flame fest. Eeeew. Someone *hong* kept their head! ;) My apologies for causing the fuss. I had hoped to find out how ppl felt. Usually we are quite civil around ENWorld--and most of you folks were here too--I did not anticipate such strong feelings about ppl's taste for a race only 3 feet tall :smirk: (Okay, I'm being mischevious there--I'm expecting hordes of halflings will sack my apartment any day now :D ) Anyways, I ultimately wished to know if there was a "generation gap" regarding ppl's tastes; the 3E version of the halfling being quite different in "concept" from the earlier incarnations we're used to. Personally, I am not wild about the 3E halfling, primarily because I am so accustomed to the "hobbitish" version. Additionally, the "new" version seems even less distinct from being "pint sized" humans than the Tolkienesque model. Nonetheless I certainly wouldn't impose either version upon my players--and I will probably offer the "hobbit" as a cultural variant to the 3E halfling. Perhaps a cultural/regional feat will make the distictions more mechanically interesting--I'll have to think about that. (Feat? Feet? There's a pun I've missed :p ) Ooops! I forgot the poll results so far: For the age group 20 years or less (mostly "newbie" D&Ders) there's no significant difference in their taste between the 3E halfling and the pseudo-hobbit "of old" :) Approx 1:1. Those 20-30 years of age we see the most dramatic difference! I imagine these D&Ders have significant knowledge of 2E and a fair degree of exposure to 1E even. Yet the numbers show a clear preference in the ENWorld community for the 3E halfling! Approx 3:1. The last group is really interesting. Older D&Ders (those over 30 years old) are less enthused by the 3E halfling than the 20-something crowd, [b]yet they also prefer[/b] the new 3E halfling from the old "hobbit"! Approx 2:1 I don't quite know what to make of it all. It seems young players don't really care due to lack of exposure to the "hobbit"? That the oldest crowd still liked the change to 3E suggests to me the change was more than welcome... BTW: thanks to those who piped in on the history of Tolkien's hobbits and those old english references to "hob-"; quite informative. :) -W. [/QUOTE]
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