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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 3402746" data-attributes="member: 9789">I just disagree about regen; it -should- be able to give you -something- in battle, or else it's just a mechanic that might as well be &quot;10 mins and you're full.&quot;&nbsp; Basically, the rates you've listed make me think:&nbsp; what's the point of tracking it?&nbsp; I'd rather just wait 10 mins and be full, and save tons of (ultimately useless) math.Which is why regen needs to happen faster.&nbsp; It can't be the only reason you win every battle, but it has to make a difference sometimes, or else:&nbsp; what's the point?&nbsp; One to three minutes is a good regen time, I think; you get enough to really -do- something with your regen, and its incentive enough to track it, but you can't turn the tide of battle every single time you fight because of it.&nbsp; And that is what DnD is all about!I guess what I'm saying is:&nbsp; 10 mins is too slow.&nbsp; 2/round at level 20 is way too low.&nbsp; If you want to make it that way, use 2 minutes, or maybe 2.5 minutes.&nbsp; That's around the average I ended up with for mine.Also, to be sure we're on the same page:&nbsp; my regen rate was going for your suggested point/bonus spell rate; the one just a few posts ago.&nbsp; I'm starting to like it more and more.Ah, yes - you're right.Also, thinking ahead...[code]Wizd lvl&nbsp;&nbsp; pool (Two) stat bonus est. total1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 32&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 53&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 64&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 85&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 106&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 147&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 168&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 219&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 19&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2510&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3511&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 32&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4212&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 40&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5513&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 52&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 6714&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 65&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 9015&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 80&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10516&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 105&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 13017&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 135&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 16018&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 170&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 19519&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 215&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 25520&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 275&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 315[/code]I noticed that reversing your idea (level + next level instead of previous) lent itself to an interesting idea for prepared casters.&nbsp; However, this is another story altogether, because without regen, you need a looooot of points (and gaining spontaneous casting is worth a ton, but it's not worth everything).&nbsp; Anyway, just wanted to put this one out there...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 3402746, member: 9789"] I just disagree about regen; it -should- be able to give you -something- in battle, or else it's just a mechanic that [I]might as well be[/I] "10 mins and you're full." Basically, the rates you've listed make me think: what's the point of tracking it? I'd rather just wait 10 mins and be full, and save tons of (ultimately useless) math. Which is why regen needs to happen faster. It can't be the only reason you win every battle, but it has to make a difference sometimes, or else: what's the point? One to three minutes is a good regen time, I think; you get enough to really -do- something with your regen, and its incentive enough to track it, but you can't turn the tide of battle every single time you fight because of it. And that is what DnD is all about! I guess what I'm saying is: 10 mins is too slow. 2/round at level 20 is way too low. If you want to make it that way, use 2 minutes, or maybe 2.5 minutes. That's around the average I ended up with for mine. Also, to be sure we're on the same page: my regen rate was going for your suggested point/bonus spell rate; the one just a few posts ago. I'm starting to like it more and more. Ah, yes - you're right. Also, thinking ahead... [code] Wizd lvl pool (Two) stat bonus est. total 1 2 1 3 2 4 1 5 3 5 1 6 4 6 2 8 5 8 2 10 6 10 4 14 7 12 4 16 8 15 6 21 9 19 6 25 10 25 10 35 11 32 10 42 12 40 15 55 13 52 15 67 14 65 25 90 15 80 25 105 16 105 25 130 17 135 25 160 18 170 25 195 19 215 40 255 20 275 40 315 [/code] I noticed that reversing your idea (level + next level instead of previous) lent itself to an interesting idea for prepared casters. However, this is another story altogether, because without regen, you need a looooot of points (and gaining spontaneous casting is worth a ton, but it's not worth everything). Anyway, just wanted to put this one out there... [/QUOTE]

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