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How are 3.5 and Pathfinder the same and different?
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 4733562" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>PF is about as different from 3.5 as 3.5 was from 3.0 or Arcana Evolved IMO. </p><p></p><p>Biggest differences:</p><p></p><p>One combat maneuver bonus (BAB +str +1 per size over medium) to resolve different combat actions instead of different mechanic formulae for trip vs. grapple vs. disarm vs sunder, etc.</p><p></p><p>Slight bump in races, each gets more stat bumps.</p><p></p><p>Slight bump up for most classes, more features throughout levels for most, rogues can sneak attack undead and constructs, cantrips are at will, turning simplified, etc.</p><p></p><p>Negative for me is the unnecessarily fiddly monk and barbarian class ki and rage point mechanics.</p><p></p><p>HD increase to match BAB, d6 for 1/2, d8 for 3/4, d10 for 1/1.</p><p></p><p>Various starting hp suggestion options to bump up 1st level hp.</p><p></p><p>Some feats redone.</p><p></p><p>Save or die type spells changed to damage or 3.5 hold person save each round mechanic.</p><p></p><p>Polymorph/alter self changed to various spells with simpler changes.</p><p></p><p>Skill list condensed and 1st level does not get x4 skill points but +3 competence bonus for class skills.</p><p></p><p>Favored class gets a minor bonus (+1hp or 1 skill point/level) instead of multiclass penalty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 4733562, member: 2209"] PF is about as different from 3.5 as 3.5 was from 3.0 or Arcana Evolved IMO. Biggest differences: One combat maneuver bonus (BAB +str +1 per size over medium) to resolve different combat actions instead of different mechanic formulae for trip vs. grapple vs. disarm vs sunder, etc. Slight bump in races, each gets more stat bumps. Slight bump up for most classes, more features throughout levels for most, rogues can sneak attack undead and constructs, cantrips are at will, turning simplified, etc. Negative for me is the unnecessarily fiddly monk and barbarian class ki and rage point mechanics. HD increase to match BAB, d6 for 1/2, d8 for 3/4, d10 for 1/1. Various starting hp suggestion options to bump up 1st level hp. Some feats redone. Save or die type spells changed to damage or 3.5 hold person save each round mechanic. Polymorph/alter self changed to various spells with simpler changes. Skill list condensed and 1st level does not get x4 skill points but +3 competence bonus for class skills. Favored class gets a minor bonus (+1hp or 1 skill point/level) instead of multiclass penalty. [/QUOTE]
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