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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8806436" data-attributes="member: 2209">Its a bit like alignment and alignment languages. It is weirdness that is there, not explained why, just that it is, and probably a lot of people ignored it. There is potential for some conceptual coolness, but you have to work to conceptualize it in a cool way.I conceptualize alignment language (at least in the three part Law Chaos Neutrality sense) as aligning yourself to an omnipresent cosmic force which allows you to intuitively communicate to others who are connected to that cosmic force as well. Alignment as cosmic force shared telepathy on a level without words. This would allow Chaotic Hobgoblins to work with Chaotic Red Dragons even though there is no shared dragon or goblin language between the two. I don't use alignment languages, but that is how I conceptualize it as a decent way to think about it as written in Moldvay Basic though and would be a basis for it if I decided to use it.4e's Dawn War Cosmology works well for the OSR dungeon feel as well. Torog is running/crawling around the Underdark in trapped pain, thrashing, lashing out, and giving off divine dungeon aspects in his wake from his very being. You can see traps spontaneously generating from him as well as things like doors being just hostile on a background minor interaction level with things getting worse the deeper you go and the closer you get to him. 4e is also a bit vague on whether the underdark is a whole different plane from the surface world.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8806436, member: 2209"] Its a bit like alignment and alignment languages. It is weirdness that is there, not explained why, just that it is, and probably a lot of people ignored it. There is potential for some conceptual coolness, but you have to work to conceptualize it in a cool way. I conceptualize alignment language (at least in the three part Law Chaos Neutrality sense) as aligning yourself to an omnipresent cosmic force which allows you to intuitively communicate to others who are connected to that cosmic force as well. Alignment as cosmic force shared telepathy on a level without words. This would allow Chaotic Hobgoblins to work with Chaotic Red Dragons even though there is no shared dragon or goblin language between the two. I don't use alignment languages, but that is how I conceptualize it as a decent way to think about it as written in Moldvay Basic though and would be a basis for it if I decided to use it. 4e's Dawn War Cosmology works well for the OSR dungeon feel as well. Torog is running/crawling around the Underdark in trapped pain, thrashing, lashing out, and giving off divine dungeon aspects in his wake from his very being. You can see traps spontaneously generating from him as well as things like doors being just hostile on a background minor interaction level with things getting worse the deeper you go and the closer you get to him. 4e is also a bit vague on whether the underdark is a whole different plane from the surface world. [/QUOTE]

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