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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8812634" data-attributes="member: 42856">And that latched and barred door sounds like a DC 20 door to open without bashing it. Are you denying the party rogue the ability to defeat a closed door on the ground that there is no lock to pick but another closure mechanism (like the opening is caused by pulling a particular book in a bookstand three rooms away?) I don't -- let that poor rogue get some spotlight. In my representation of the magical world of Artificers, thieves tools include a long list of standard password to get Kundarak-protected doors to open themselves, classed by door model -- it's very often that the owner don't change the administrator password on them, leaving it to mellon for some obscure reason.</blockquote>