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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4966297" data-attributes="member: 43019">I think we still safely know that the blue dragon sniping party is still just an example of an unfun encounter, and hopefully no DM is rolling random encounters for a party traveling or running a module that happens to include a blue dragon and then going 'well, I guess the smart tactic would be...' _but_ your assumptions above are flawed.1) It's not a magical barrier. It knows it can launch a blast of energy a certain range. It should well know how high to stay so it's at the rough extent of its range (ie, 101-110 ft up). If you mean 'it shouldn't know that many creatures have attacks which don't go past 100 ft' - 1) why not? and 2) why wouldn't it stay at max range, regardless?2) It has fly (hover). Yes, it can.3) Doesn't really help them except to limit the number of them it can kill. That is why I mentioned that it might only kill, say, 2 of the 5 PCs though. I assumed a scenario where they all scattered and ran. It presumably focuses on the ranger or whatever first in the meantime.4) It can do so as exactly as any player can, and since it only needs to be within 10 feet of its estimate I imagine it can do so quite well enough for these purposes. At least as well as any PC positioning a blast 5 or area burst 2 normally. I imagine you don't make PCs use grenade scatter rules for that, anyways, nor would I think of telling a DM to do so for his monsters as a player.5) Sometimes DMs don't design encounters - they run them from a module or roll some random encounter or something similar. Not my preferred method, of course, but I _have_ actually fought multiple dragons out in fairly open areas in modules as a player and had a DM once whose idea of fun _was_ to hover at max height in a 60' tall room using ranged attacks cause hey, that's what was in the module (yawn).So depending on the game, Grasping Javelins and Ebony Flies (preferably with the invulnerability saddle) may be the method of choice for dealing with flyers. If you're lucky you may have some other resort, though surprisingly few abilities work for this. If your DM doesn't allow forced movement to work vertically, you're even more up a creek.</blockquote>

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