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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 4972874" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>We have a precident with bards who have bard only rituals. The same could be done with other classes and these rituals could be more lenient with costs and time.</p><p> </p><p>As keterys said: you should not have to make a choice between in and out of combat.</p><p>For a wizard this is less bad, because you have 2 utility spells you can exchange. So you can take a combat and an out of combat option.</p><p> </p><p>And what is so bad about: as a wizard you can use your arcane energy to cast rituals with component costs of 100 g or less for free or you can use those components and can cast the rituals as a standard action.</p><p> </p><p>Taking the knock spell as an example, you don´t make the rogue obosllete, because he needs at most 2 mins to open the lock. But lacking a rogue you can still be helpfull.</p><p> </p><p>And the best, you can create a wizard only feat, which does exactly as i proposed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>And the second ritual, which binds any (wizard) utility spell (you need to learn it for each utility spell) into a scroll for an appropriate coast also doesn´t sound so wrong. </p><p>(Daily spells cost way more than encounter spells and using it is a daily item use)</p><p> </p><p>Maybe this ritual can only be accessed through a feat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 4972874, member: 59057"] We have a precident with bards who have bard only rituals. The same could be done with other classes and these rituals could be more lenient with costs and time. As keterys said: you should not have to make a choice between in and out of combat. For a wizard this is less bad, because you have 2 utility spells you can exchange. So you can take a combat and an out of combat option. And what is so bad about: as a wizard you can use your arcane energy to cast rituals with component costs of 100 g or less for free or you can use those components and can cast the rituals as a standard action. Taking the knock spell as an example, you don´t make the rogue obosllete, because he needs at most 2 mins to open the lock. But lacking a rogue you can still be helpfull. And the best, you can create a wizard only feat, which does exactly as i proposed. ;) And the second ritual, which binds any (wizard) utility spell (you need to learn it for each utility spell) into a scroll for an appropriate coast also doesn´t sound so wrong. (Daily spells cost way more than encounter spells and using it is a daily item use) Maybe this ritual can only be accessed through a feat. [/QUOTE]
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