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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 153681" data-attributes="member: 1134"><p>I like the save to negate the whole thing in the begining idea.&nbsp; But so far, my habit is any spell I think is too good like miasma(and including about a dozen PH spells), I don't allow in at all.&nbsp; I allow the players to use the basic idea of the spell for spell research.&nbsp; And if they come up with a version I like I'll let it in the game as a spell they researched.(when I'm feeling incredibly proactive I may get off my butt and make a version I like myself, and introduce it as treasure a wizard scroll, or lost teachings of X church for example)&nbsp; My general rule for all cleric and druid new spells even if I don't have a problem with them is basically the same thing but I let them to research the exact spell in the book.&nbsp; I refuse to let clerics and druids jump in power with huge numbers of new spells which they auto know, and I also refuse to allow players to cherry pick the best spells from the splat books, and the PH by the option some use of letting them replace a spell from the PH list with one of the new ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 153681, member: 1134"] I like the save to negate the whole thing in the begining idea. But so far, my habit is any spell I think is too good like miasma(and including about a dozen PH spells), I don't allow in at all. I allow the players to use the basic idea of the spell for spell research. And if they come up with a version I like I'll let it in the game as a spell they researched.(when I'm feeling incredibly proactive I may get off my butt and make a version I like myself, and introduce it as treasure a wizard scroll, or lost teachings of X church for example) My general rule for all cleric and druid new spells even if I don't have a problem with them is basically the same thing but I let them to research the exact spell in the book. I refuse to let clerics and druids jump in power with huge numbers of new spells which they auto know, and I also refuse to allow players to cherry pick the best spells from the splat books, and the PH by the option some use of letting them replace a spell from the PH list with one of the new ones. [/QUOTE]

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