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<blockquote data-quote="Petrosian" data-source="post: 154843" data-attributes="member: 1149">For those who disallow/refuse to let the spellcasters have knowledge of the spells from the various classbooks without research (downtime and money) or trading off for existing spells 1 for 1, i have a question.Does this principle only apply to casters or does it apply to everyone?If my ranger wanted to take &quot;greater two weapon fighting&quot; or if my barbarian wanted to take &quot;extra rage&quot; or if my rogue wanted to take &quot;hamstring&quot; feats would they also have to go through the same process (feat research?) ot go through some trade off of current feats to gain these?If this just applies to spellcasters, why?IMG and IMO, the stuff in the classbooks were not in the PHB for two reasons. First, the PHB had to stop somewhere. Second, they make more money. The PHb was what they could afford to have, not some sort of master list, either of feats or of skills or of spells. No more than the DMG is the final list of magic items or the MM is the final list of monsters. Now that all the classbooks are out, it seems to me that the picture is finally completed.Anyway, just curious as to how this applies to all classes not just picking out the spellcasters for treatment.****************As for the WTFWTTing error rate in splatbooks... i would be more inclined to say about 5% for the PHB, DMG,MM and 10% for the classbooks (most of that in the PrCs.) I do not think i had to do more than cosmetic flavor tweaks to anything near 10% of the items, feats, spells.Hmmm... interesting question... if you list 50% as the WTF rate for the classbooks, what were the 50% of MOTW? Of the spells so far iirc miasma was the only one i changed, iirc. I think i was concerned wih one feat, but cannot recall it. i recall in song and silence tossing the silent bard feat for flavor not for balance.Still way below een my 10%. What was your 50% WTF comprised of?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Petrosian, post: 154843, member: 1149"] For those who disallow/refuse to let the spellcasters have knowledge of the spells from the various classbooks without research (downtime and money) or trading off for existing spells 1 for 1, i have a question. Does this principle only apply to casters or does it apply to everyone? If my ranger wanted to take "greater two weapon fighting" or if my barbarian wanted to take "extra rage" or if my rogue wanted to take "hamstring" feats would they also have to go through the same process (feat research?) ot go through some trade off of current feats to gain these? If this just applies to spellcasters, why? IMG and IMO, the stuff in the classbooks were not in the PHB for two reasons. First, the PHB had to stop somewhere. Second, they make more money. The PHb was what they could afford to have, not some sort of master list, either of feats or of skills or of spells. No more than the DMG is the final list of magic items or the MM is the final list of monsters. Now that all the classbooks are out, it seems to me that the picture is finally completed. Anyway, just curious as to how this applies to all classes not just picking out the spellcasters for treatment. **************** As for the WTFWTTing error rate in splatbooks... i would be more inclined to say about 5% for the PHB, DMG,MM and 10% for the classbooks (most of that in the PrCs.) I do not think i had to do more than cosmetic flavor tweaks to anything near 10% of the items, feats, spells. Hmmm... interesting question... if you list 50% as the WTF rate for the classbooks, what were the 50% of MOTW? Of the spells so far iirc miasma was the only one i changed, iirc. I think i was concerned wih one feat, but cannot recall it. i recall in song and silence tossing the silent bard feat for flavor not for balance. Still way below een my 10%. What was your 50% WTF comprised of? [/QUOTE]

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