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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7951402" data-attributes="member: 6987520">I am not as much worried about the HP to kill them as I am the opening salvo of spells and fighting a string of them that will deplete our resources. As I see it, we could end up with:BBEG (say 150 hp)Sim 1 (75 hp) - 1 7th level slotSim 2 (37 hp) - 2 7th level slotsSim 3 (18 hp) - 2 7th level slots, 1 8th level slotSim 4 (9 hp) - 2 7th level slots, -1 8th level slot, -1 9th level slotFor 5 "archmages" with at least 1-6th level spells, and a few upper level ones to boot.All have the same spell save DC (assume 19 or 20). Just using something like Chain Lightning, which does 10d8 damage, means each PC in a 5-character party could take 20-40d8 damage in one round. If a PC makes 2 out of 4 saves, that still averages 135 damage for the opening hit.Mix it up with Chain Lightning, Cone of Cold, Cloudkill, or the fact that 4 out of the 5 could open up with meteor swarm... and you have 80d6 bludgeoning and 80d6 fire... 280 damage even with all successful saves-- from up to a mile away... That would kill even your average 20th-level barbarian.Oh, and all while they are invisible, popping in and out with loads of more spells to do a whole lot more.This is why I said in the other thread Wizards are the most powerful characters in the game--no doubt.How the hell can we deal with that???EDIT: LOL given the idea of having Twinned spells, you could have a lot more simulacrums (as many as 6 with a 9th-level slot) plus the original. If they all cast Meteor Swarm that is 490 damage even with making all saves.</blockquote>

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