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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vraille Darkfang" data-source="post: 3253711" data-attributes="member: 16989">I usually (lately( run for large groups (6-8 players).I cringe when someone decides to play a bard.I know my job just got a whole lot harder.The bard is really great at making everyone else better at what they do best.The Bard can also fill it for about any other class (some combat, some healing, some thievery, some spellcasting).The Bard can about do it all.  It just can't do it as good as the core class can.I've found that in larger groups, Bards are an exceptionally powerful class.As long as they are helping to carry the load, as opposed to toting the whole darned thing, they can really shine.I think of the bard as the best 4+ Class I've seen (CW of 1 Fighter, 1 Healer, 1 Spellcaster, 1 Skill Monkey-Rogue).  After you have the 4 down, Bard just makes everyone else better, and fills in wherever needed.Plus, I give a lot of Background Info away with Bardic Lore that can come back to aid the party later (if they pay attention the first time).</blockquote>