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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darklone" data-source="post: 3255692" data-attributes="member: 1372">Yipeee, attack! Ehem.Can't say my Celestial chainmail is as bad as a puny dispel-able Mage armor spell. And not half as handsome.DM's fiat. Ok. If you have a bad DM, any class can suck.By this definition, Int and Wis are dump stats too.Yupp, agreed. I'd love to see spellcasters at d6, roguish dudes at d8 and fighterdudes at d10 hitpoints. With lesser effect of Con on the hitpoint total.Just because you can certainly doesn't mean you have to. But if you can do a lot of things and you happen to combine certain small effects, you may end up with an avalanche that makes your DM angry.Sing Inspire Courage and start to fight. Not much to do there, no upkeep and it rocks. All these complaints about the bard class mostly show to me that here's someone not able to use the bards abilities.No offense meant, but your post looks to me like someone trying to make the flame of this thread burn a little bit hotter...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>