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<blockquote data-quote="Fenes 2" data-source="post: 477335" data-attributes="member: 6166">In my campaigns this feat would be grossly overpowered. Almsot every PC has an above Charisma, and often combat takes place in situations where no one is wearing armor (in the bedroom/bathroom, at balls or in an inn). The paladin with her charisma of 20 would have a decent AC without her plate mail, but the swashbuckler and the bard... ugh. Another campaign is set in the south, where heavy armor is very unpractical and most rely on the sorcerer's extended mage armor.As far as a decent AC goes, a duelist, especially at higher levels, can often give any plate-wearing fighter a run for his money. Our current duelist will recieve the elaborate parry ability next level, at which point she will, when fighting defensively (-4 to attack), have an AC of 10+5(Dex) +4(Fighting defensively with 15 ranks tumble, according to OA) +3(Canny Defense) +7(Elaborate parry) +1(Dodge). That makes 30 even without magical items. Add natural armor and bracers of armor and stat enhancing items for dex and Int and you will easily reach 40+.Now imagine Charisma adding to that as well...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fenes 2, post: 477335, member: 6166"] In my campaigns this feat would be grossly overpowered. Almsot every PC has an above Charisma, and often combat takes place in situations where no one is wearing armor (in the bedroom/bathroom, at balls or in an inn). The paladin with her charisma of 20 would have a decent AC without her plate mail, but the swashbuckler and the bard... ugh. Another campaign is set in the south, where heavy armor is very unpractical and most rely on the sorcerer's extended mage armor. As far as a decent AC goes, a duelist, especially at higher levels, can often give any plate-wearing fighter a run for his money. Our current duelist will recieve the elaborate parry ability next level, at which point she will, when fighting defensively (-4 to attack), have an AC of 10+5(Dex) +4(Fighting defensively with 15 ranks tumble, according to OA) +3(Canny Defense) +7(Elaborate parry) +1(Dodge). That makes 30 even without magical items. Add natural armor and bracers of armor and stat enhancing items for dex and Int and you will easily reach 40+. Now imagine Charisma adding to that as well... [/QUOTE]

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