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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8447886" data-attributes="member: 84112">I am assumeing the growing D&amp;D community, where (In my experence) the social has been growing in importance and the Combat has been shrinking with newer players (and mind you that isn't me...I am in my 40's and have been playing more of my life then I didn't, I am old school not new school at all)Great example... back in the&nbsp; day when I was a teen playing 2e I&nbsp; LOVED fighter... but I HATED how many DMs didn't like the whole leader of men thing... not once did I get to build a castle.Maybe that is why I loved 4's Warlord so much I could FEEL like a leader of men without building the castle.Same, I feel like they ARE NOT optional, but just have that tag for some reason. I can't imagine why multi classing was called out, I atleast understand why feats might be.Okay, but I think GURPS did what 5e promised (remember dials) I think a 4th &quot;main&quot; book full of optional rules would be great... even if you pulled feats out of the PHB and into this book of dials and knobs...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8447886, member: 84112"] I am assumeing the growing D&D community, where (In my experence) the social has been growing in importance and the Combat has been shrinking with newer players (and mind you that isn't me...I am in my 40's and have been playing more of my life then I didn't, I am old school not new school at all) Great example... back in the day when I was a teen playing 2e I LOVED fighter... but I HATED how many DMs didn't like the whole leader of men thing... not once did I get to build a castle. Maybe that is why I loved 4's Warlord so much I could FEEL like a leader of men without building the castle. Same, I feel like they ARE NOT optional, but just have that tag for some reason. I can't imagine why multi classing was called out, I atleast understand why feats might be. Okay, but I think GURPS did what 5e promised (remember dials) I think a 4th "main" book full of optional rules would be great... even if you pulled feats out of the PHB and into this book of dials and knobs... [/QUOTE]

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