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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kithas" data-source="post: 6795521" data-attributes="member: 97587">So I know that things get complicated when you get knee deep into characters and it seems like there are a ton of things a party needs but in all honesty it helps to step back and consider most of them in three categories. These are Damage Dealer, Tank, and Support. To find out which one you are basically look at what you are built to do. If you are built to deal damage, take damage, or enhance the rest of your party respectively.It looks like you want somewhere between a support and damage dealer. A mage fits this rather well I'd say although with the right stats and spells so can your paladin.First let's look at your paladin because he's already built. A huge spell for a group like yours in need of healing would be aura of vitality, 2d6 healing a turn as a bonus action, so you can still pull damage off people while healing others. If your cha and skills are right you can definitely be the face for your party. I'm not sure what you mean by diviner but hopefully someone else in the group can scrape a decent wis/int score together :/As for the mage option;Favored soul sorcerer would do rather well, but  I would offer a substitute; Bard. Bards are full casters that also excel in party support.  The Lore college with it's expanded Mystical secrets will definitely serve you well, letting you steal things like aura of vitality, elemental weapon, conjure Volley, Fireball, Storm Sphere, basically any spell you want you can have. They cast out of charisma and have many of the 'face' skills, you also don't need many good scores so you have plenty of room for a decent int and wisdom. You even get expertise that you can throw at your 'diviner' skill of choice be it perception or insight.As far as damage dealing, magic initiate into warlock for hex, eldritch blast and something else would give you some very potent ranged dpr as well.I hope that helps!</blockquote>

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