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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5980842" data-attributes="member: 87792">The problem is that the path you describe would appear to be the equivalent of convincing an elephant to walk a tightrope over a chasm.  I've said before and I'll say agan, I literally do not understand who the target audience for D&D next is on a case by case level.It could.  But without a coherent target audience, it is incredibly unlikely to get this.  There is literally no one with an incentive to change to the lowest common denominator D&D over their current game.  And the compromise editionFine.  Now show me a path there.  Because the 4e business plan had a much easier route to success - unfortunately then Gleemax had a tragedy, destroying the online strategy and the in house development team never really recovered.The problem is a miserable failure is a major failure.  A resounding "meh" won't get people to get a second book.  A heroic failure will involve a lot of downsizing but will at the very least have a long tail.Really?  Because that's not what I understood with the "no 4.5" promise.  3.5 was amongst other things a near-shameless moneygrab that caused a lot of bad feeling at the time - no edition war, just bad feeling at the shamelessness of WotC.  Some of the changes in 3.5 were good ones (the Bard, the Ranger, the fixed Haste rules).  But it was deliberately incompatable with 3.0 to try to force people to rebuy all their core books.What I took the promise to be was that WotC would not try to force us to rebuy the core rulebooks.  And that they'd balance it so the DM didn't have to keep track of which sources were allowed (unlike in 3.X).  And they kept to it until they produced themes for non-Dark Sun characters last year.3.0 was literally pulled off the shelves.  WotC stopped selling 3.0 and instead put out something deliberately slightly incompatable.  They are still selling the 4e PHB.  And that, not how far things have drifted, is the mark of a new edition.</blockquote>

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