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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5980890" data-attributes="member: 87792">I really can't agree there - mostly for the reason that the errata to the players' books has been released for free.  That's hardly money grabbing.  As for the new triads, 2e has a PHB2.  And all the content in each new triad has been new (with the sole exception of the spells for the mage class in Essentials).  The PHB2 is basically a very good splatbook.  And the PHB3 a, in all honesty, poor one.  (The PHB3 monk is an awesome class - but I tell people to avoid the Runepriest and Seeker, and outright ban the three power point classes and hybrids).As for incomplete, what do you mean?  That they only had a limited number of classes?  And 4e had 25 classes before Essentials?You seem to be ascribing to conspiracy what I consider to be a cockup.  Monster Vault kicks the Monster Manual 1's arse.  But I do not believe that at the time the PHB1 was published, the designers were capable of designing Monster Vault.  I don't believe they realised what some of the issues were any more than the designers of 3.0 realised what they'd unleashed on the world with 3.0 Haste.Congratulations.  You are treating 3.0 the way 2e players often treated 1e.  You might as well merge those editions by your math.  But the changes made are all over the place - they altered the shape of a horse ffs.  (5ft by 10ft to 10ft by 10ft).  They changed the skill lists (and detail on about 30 of the skills with things ranging from name changes to near rewrites), a lot of spells, and more.  And then there were changes to weapon sizes, DR, spell durations, XP calculation (leading to the XP is a river issue).  And I'm missing quite a lot out.  WotC of course never released a detailed conversion document.For that matter, the game I'm preparing I'm using the 1e AD&D DMG, Vornheim, the 2e Undermountain box, the 2e Planescape boxed sets, and the 4e Undermountain book.</blockquote>

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