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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadeydm" data-source="post: 5983627" data-attributes="member: 44243">RE: Tide of Iron: my fighter knocks them 15 and prone at will, I can detail the build if you like but it does really seem germaine to the discussion. The point is there is no way you can tell me that hitting twice is somehow logically or reasonably harder to do or set up than hitting pushing a great distance and making an extra move sorry.For my part there might have been buy in if my 11th level fighter actually got better at hack and hew or rain of blows maybe by 7th level he could do it twice/encounter 3 times at 11th etc. But you were never going to convince me that Tide of Iron being at will makes any kind of sense by comparison.RE: Fighters learning uncanny dodge I'm going to assume this was intended for someone else since i have not advocated anything of the sort.</blockquote>