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<blockquote data-quote="n00bdragon" data-source="post: 5983675" data-attributes="member: 6689371">Oh boy, now GIVING people powers adds limitations to them? I'm sure I just read some sort of justification for that but really? REALLY?Fighters went from having no mechanical options to having just as many mechanical options as everyone else. Please run that by me again. How does that constitute limiting them or restricting what they can do?Does giving someone money make them poorer?Does giving someone food make them starve?The only part of this equation is addition. The fighter had nothing taken away, only added. The 4e fighter is strictly better at what he does than the 3e fighter in every way. He fights more effectively, he socializes more effectively, and he explores more effectively. If you simply opted to never use any of his powers (which are all entirely optional) he would play similarly to fighters of previous editions.I'm not exactly sure how you came to such a bile-filled hatred of the 4e fighter but whatever you imagine it to be does not appear in any way connected to the real thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="n00bdragon, post: 5983675, member: 6689371"] Oh boy, now GIVING people powers adds limitations to them? I'm sure I just read some sort of justification for that but really? REALLY? Fighters went from having [B]no[/B] mechanical options to having [B]just as many[/B] mechanical options as everyone else. Please run that by me again. How does that constitute limiting them or restricting what they can do? Does giving someone money make them poorer? Does giving someone food make them starve? The only part of this equation is addition. The fighter had nothing taken away, only added. The 4e fighter is strictly better at what he does than the 3e fighter in every way. He fights more effectively, he socializes more effectively, and he explores more effectively. If you simply opted to never use any of his powers (which are all entirely optional) he would play similarly to fighters of previous editions. I'm not exactly sure how you came to such a bile-filled hatred of the 4e fighter but whatever you imagine it to be does not appear in any way connected to the real thing. [/QUOTE]

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