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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aco175" data-source="post: 9762111" data-attributes="member: 27385">What is the DC the DM is asking for?  How many people are left in the party?  Say you have have 4 other PCs and a DC of 15 to find, wouldn't 4 rolls even at -1 mean that the party would find some of them?  You can always leave the dungeon and go to town to hire a few henchmen scouts.  You could skip them.  We are all here trying to inject player intelligence into the low INT PCs to make them smarter.  If there is any that are needed to be opened, the DM will find a way to fudge something.  A torch might work if you wave it along walls.  The flame blows to the tunnel that leads outside in the movies and the smoke might seep into cracks of a secret door.  Again, Perception and Investigation to actually open it.  Once you find it thought, I grant advantage to open it.</blockquote>