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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9762125" data-attributes="member: 7006">Options:- Accept you are going to find barely any secret doors and travel through the dungeon as far as you can just on the normal pathways.  Once you are done, leave the dungeon and come back later if you really need to get through those secret doors for whatever reason.- Rather than trying to find methods that allow you to use Charisma, find methods that would allow you to use Perception.- Take two week off from gaming until the Rogue player comes back.  If the DM doesn't want to do that, tell the DM that if this dungeon is really so important to the overall plot of the campaign that it needs to be completed... they then should amend some of their requirements on what it would take for the party to get through it.  The DM can either have the party complete the dungeon (and let the players have a little more leniency on what it would take to find/complete it) or the party won't complete it and the DM has to accept that fact.  Hopefully the DM does not have their heart set on your group finishing it (at least over the next two weeks when you are missing your rogue) because odds are, you aren't going to.Also lesson learned:  Min-maxing is usually not the best decision when creating a character.  Especially if every player chooses to min-max for the same thing the same way.</blockquote>