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How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?
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<blockquote data-quote="SpellObjectEnthusiast" data-source="post: 9762412" data-attributes="member: 7031017"><p>The 2014 DM's Guide gives reasonable guidance on handling secret doors, Page 103-104. Added some Bold/Italics to highlight important lines.</p><p></p><p>No int in your group? Break down the doors!</p><p></p><p>"Secret Doors</p><p></p><p>A secret door is crafted to blend into the wall that surrounds it. Sometimes faint cracks in the wall or scuff marks on the floor betray the secret door's presence.</p><p></p><p>Detecting a Secret Door. <strong>Use the characters' passive Wisdom (Perception) scores to determine whether anyone in the party notices a secret door</strong> without actively searching for it. Characters can also find a secret door by actively searching the location where the door is hidden and succeeding on a Wisdom (Perception) check. To set an appropriate DC for the check, see chapter 8.</p><p></p><p>Opening a Secret Door. <strong>Once a secret door is detected, a successful Intelligence (Investigation) check <em>might</em></strong> be required to determine how to open it if the opening mechanism isn't obvious. Set the DC according to the difficulty guidelines in chapter 8.</p><p></p><p>If adventurers can't determine how to open a secret door,<strong> breaking it down is always an option</strong>. Treat it as a locked door made of the same material as the surrounding wall, and use the guidelines in chapter 8 to determine appropriate DCs or statistics."</p><p></p><p>Some doors don't even need an Investigation check to open, or even a perception check to find!</p><p></p><p>"Concealed Doors</p><p></p><p>A concealed door is a normal door that is hidden from view. A secret door is carefully crafted to blend into its surrounding surface, whereas a concealed door is most often hidden by mundane means. It might be covered by a tapestry, covered with plaster, or (in the case of a concealed trapdoor) hidden under a rug.<strong> Normally, no ability check is required to find a concealed door</strong>. A character need only look in the right place or take the right steps to reveal the door. However, you can use the characters' passive Wisdom (Perception) scores to determine whether any of them notices tracks or signs of a tapestry or rug having been recently disturbed."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SpellObjectEnthusiast, post: 9762412, member: 7031017"] The 2014 DM's Guide gives reasonable guidance on handling secret doors, Page 103-104. Added some Bold/Italics to highlight important lines. No int in your group? Break down the doors! "Secret Doors A secret door is crafted to blend into the wall that surrounds it. Sometimes faint cracks in the wall or scuff marks on the floor betray the secret door's presence. Detecting a Secret Door. [B]Use the characters' passive Wisdom (Perception) scores to determine whether anyone in the party notices a secret door[/B] without actively searching for it. Characters can also find a secret door by actively searching the location where the door is hidden and succeeding on a Wisdom (Perception) check. To set an appropriate DC for the check, see chapter 8. Opening a Secret Door. [B]Once a secret door is detected, a successful Intelligence (Investigation) check [I]might[/I][/B][I] [/I]be required to determine how to open it if the opening mechanism isn't obvious. Set the DC according to the difficulty guidelines in chapter 8. If adventurers can't determine how to open a secret door,[B] breaking it down is always an option[/B]. Treat it as a locked door made of the same material as the surrounding wall, and use the guidelines in chapter 8 to determine appropriate DCs or statistics." Some doors don't even need an Investigation check to open, or even a perception check to find! "Concealed Doors A concealed door is a normal door that is hidden from view. A secret door is carefully crafted to blend into its surrounding surface, whereas a concealed door is most often hidden by mundane means. It might be covered by a tapestry, covered with plaster, or (in the case of a concealed trapdoor) hidden under a rug.[B] Normally, no ability check is required to find a concealed door[/B]. A character need only look in the right place or take the right steps to reveal the door. However, you can use the characters' passive Wisdom (Perception) scores to determine whether any of them notices tracks or signs of a tapestry or rug having been recently disturbed." [/QUOTE]
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