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How can i obtain a proficiency in a musical instrument if im not a bard
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<blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 7839289" data-attributes="member: 1095"><p>I hear what you're saying on language groups, and I agree. It's one of the reasons I wanted to learn Latin before tackling its children languages. </p><p></p><p>That said dwarven is a far cry from elven is a far cry from orc or draconic or infernal. At least I'd think so. Primordial is the only grouped language I'm aware of and you can already communicate with an Auran speaker in Ignan, ala the French/Spanish/Italian convergence you noted. </p><p></p><p>On Tool proficiency... I can't find any stat blocks for something like a Smith or Expert on DNDBeyond, so if you needed to represent their skill level It'd be with some other stat block. The only Smith I KNOW about is from SKT, Ghelyrn Foehammer and his NPC stat block doesn't even list Smith's tools as a proficiency! Though we know he must be because he's a blacksmith! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>So, my assumption is proficiency = professionally capable. XGE Downtime rules say that this is how you earn money "Working": </p><p></p><p>A commoner proficient in something is going to average a modest lifestyler. Sounds about right for skilled labor. </p><p></p><p>Sure a master smith or something is better represented by expertise, but there is a big gap from Professional/competent at a skill to Master/top level. </p><p></p><p>YMMV with that, but I view proficiency in a set of tools as "able to earn a living using downtime rules semi-reliably" = professional aptitude. Expertise is just that, expertise, a high level "expert". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know, right? Ugh.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salthorae, post: 7839289, member: 1095"] I hear what you're saying on language groups, and I agree. It's one of the reasons I wanted to learn Latin before tackling its children languages. That said dwarven is a far cry from elven is a far cry from orc or draconic or infernal. At least I'd think so. Primordial is the only grouped language I'm aware of and you can already communicate with an Auran speaker in Ignan, ala the French/Spanish/Italian convergence you noted. On Tool proficiency... I can't find any stat blocks for something like a Smith or Expert on DNDBeyond, so if you needed to represent their skill level It'd be with some other stat block. The only Smith I KNOW about is from SKT, Ghelyrn Foehammer and his NPC stat block doesn't even list Smith's tools as a proficiency! Though we know he must be because he's a blacksmith! :) So, my assumption is proficiency = professionally capable. XGE Downtime rules say that this is how you earn money "Working": A commoner proficient in something is going to average a modest lifestyler. Sounds about right for skilled labor. Sure a master smith or something is better represented by expertise, but there is a big gap from Professional/competent at a skill to Master/top level. YMMV with that, but I view proficiency in a set of tools as "able to earn a living using downtime rules semi-reliably" = professional aptitude. Expertise is just that, expertise, a high level "expert". :) I know, right? Ugh. [/QUOTE]
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