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<blockquote data-quote="clockworkjoe" data-source="post: 169491" data-attributes="member: 1321"><p>Sure they stack in the sense that prot from arrows will block 10 points of missile damage and stoneskin will block 10 points of damage from any source. So that's still 20 points. </p><p></p><p>2000 guys shooting at one person? Err ok, but you're forgetting a few things like:</p><p></p><p>*Physical space. 2000 people take up 2000 5 foot squares in 3e. That means a lot of them are going to be in less than desirable positions to shoot. if you put them in a circle around the guy, then some of the archers would reasonable shoot each other. And that would be one big circle.</p><p></p><p>*So this guy only has these two spells on him and is doing NOTHING? Assume he wins initative due to bonuses and luck. Also assume he's a high level wizard. So that means he'll probably have haste, improved invisibility, fly, exped retreat, endurance, cat's grace, mage armor, shield, at the very least. </p><p></p><p>In my scenario, instead of standing there and getting shot, the mage swoops in invisible above the massed archers, and then opens up with a few of these:</p><p></p><p>Fear/Horror/confusion type spells. </p><p>Walls of stone/fire/ice to box them in</p><p>Conjured monsters with DR to distract them</p><p>Fireballs, Lightning bolts and other area attack spells</p><p>teleportation spells to summon in his uber buddies</p><p></p><p>So the poor archers don't know where the mage is, and panic after being blown up, scared, confused, and attacked by nasty creatures that come out of nowhere. </p><p></p><p>Yes 2000 archers can kill a high level character if they all can shoot at him without being attacked. A single commoner can also coup de grace a 20th level super character if the uber character is asleep/held/paralyzed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clockworkjoe, post: 169491, member: 1321"] Sure they stack in the sense that prot from arrows will block 10 points of missile damage and stoneskin will block 10 points of damage from any source. So that's still 20 points. 2000 guys shooting at one person? Err ok, but you're forgetting a few things like: *Physical space. 2000 people take up 2000 5 foot squares in 3e. That means a lot of them are going to be in less than desirable positions to shoot. if you put them in a circle around the guy, then some of the archers would reasonable shoot each other. And that would be one big circle. *So this guy only has these two spells on him and is doing NOTHING? Assume he wins initative due to bonuses and luck. Also assume he's a high level wizard. So that means he'll probably have haste, improved invisibility, fly, exped retreat, endurance, cat's grace, mage armor, shield, at the very least. In my scenario, instead of standing there and getting shot, the mage swoops in invisible above the massed archers, and then opens up with a few of these: Fear/Horror/confusion type spells. Walls of stone/fire/ice to box them in Conjured monsters with DR to distract them Fireballs, Lightning bolts and other area attack spells teleportation spells to summon in his uber buddies So the poor archers don't know where the mage is, and panic after being blown up, scared, confused, and attacked by nasty creatures that come out of nowhere. Yes 2000 archers can kill a high level character if they all can shoot at him without being attacked. A single commoner can also coup de grace a 20th level super character if the uber character is asleep/held/paralyzed. [/QUOTE]
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