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<blockquote data-quote="Baldurs_Underdark" data-source="post: 7441072" data-attributes="member: 6880355">I have a (homebrew) monster who can cast Mass Suggestion, but I hesitate to use it against my players, because I see very few ways that the players can counter it. I am considering to nerf the monster and to remove the Mass Suggestion. From a roleplay perspective, the Mass Suggestion makes sense - this is an influential NPC - but I think it is over-powered. I am looking for some feedback! What can a player do against Mass Suggestion after their failed the saving throw? Are they just ****ed for the next 24 hrs? There seems no way to get rid of it, other than a different spell from a (friendly) spell caster (e.g. dispel magic, or another suggestion spell). It is also not a concentration spell, so you can't just hit/kill the creature who cast it to get rid of it. Btw, Mass Suggestion is really a Kryptonite to my players: None of them have racial/class benefits against it, and they all have crap Wis saves. I want to force my players to flee the battle. I expect at least 3 of the 6 to fail their saves, which means the battle is lost, and the players will either be killed or captured (note: I don't need to capture them for my storyline, and I would much rather see my players victorious in this encounter, which is why I consider nerfing the NPC).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baldurs_Underdark, post: 7441072, member: 6880355"] I have a (homebrew) monster who can cast Mass Suggestion, but I hesitate to use it against my players, because I see very few ways that the players can counter it. I am considering to nerf the monster and to remove the Mass Suggestion. From a roleplay perspective, the Mass Suggestion makes sense - this is an influential NPC - but I think it is over-powered. I am looking for some feedback! What can a player do against Mass Suggestion after their failed the saving throw? Are they just ****ed for the next 24 hrs? There seems no way to get rid of it, other than a different spell from a (friendly) spell caster (e.g. dispel magic, or another suggestion spell). It is also not a concentration spell, so you can't just hit/kill the creature who cast it to get rid of it. Btw, Mass Suggestion is really a Kryptonite to my players: None of them have racial/class benefits against it, and they all have crap Wis saves. I want to force my players to flee the battle. I expect at least 3 of the 6 to fail their saves, which means the battle is lost, and the players will either be killed or captured (note: I don't need to capture them for my storyline, and I would much rather see my players victorious in this encounter, which is why I consider nerfing the NPC). [/QUOTE]

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