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<blockquote data-quote="rankarrog" data-source="post: 4292982" data-attributes="member: 1133">You expand the 20% non-combat stuff without cannibalizing the 80% of ass kicking. This may not be what you had in mind, but everything else is pretty much guaranteed to cause the chain reaction you fear.Make (for example) a dozen nonadventurer Skills, two dozen noncombat Feats, and perhaps even a few &quot;universal powers&quot; (Perhaps give them other titles such as talents for feats and competencies for skills to make them diffrent from from the adventurers stuff) and let each player select a handfull (+1 each odd level or so), without &quot;making them pay&quot; with their combat-abilities.This way even a powergamer has little restraint to give a character more depth and your &quot;con-man type character&quot; (Now hopefulle consisting of 80 points of Combat crunch and 80 Points of diffrent things, for a nice 50%/50%) will not drag the party down in combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rankarrog, post: 4292982, member: 1133"] You expand the 20% non-combat stuff without cannibalizing the 80% of ass kicking. This may not be what you had in mind, but everything else is pretty much guaranteed to cause the chain reaction you fear. Make (for example) a dozen nonadventurer Skills, two dozen noncombat Feats, and perhaps even a few "universal powers" (Perhaps give them other titles such as talents for feats and competencies for skills to make them diffrent from from the adventurers stuff) and let each player select a handfull (+1 each odd level or so), without "making them pay" with their combat-abilities. This way even a powergamer has little restraint to give a character more depth and your "con-man type character" (Now hopefulle consisting of 80 points of Combat crunch and 80 Points of diffrent things, for a nice 50%/50%) will not drag the party down in combat. [/QUOTE]

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