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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1349508" data-attributes="member: 4134">Is that "(not being sarcastic)" sarcastic or do you mean it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />That's because in Lodoss, they call on spirits of the world to do magic. Let's just call them what they are - the (lesser) Kami. I always thought that lodoss capures the western fantasy quite well, except from that kami magic, which is more common in eastern fantasy (in Rokugan, which uses Japan as a base rather than Europe, you have to use the Kami to do magic - or you have to use stuff like blood). So, the best class for Deed is shugenja.Elves and Wizards match quite well, I think. Sure, elves tend to be chaotic, and wizards tend to be lawful, but both are nothing more than suggestions, especially the wizard (elves do have an affinity for chaos, which is mirrored by their deities - they're all chaotic). You can easily have chaotic wizards (and lawful sorcerers). Since they are longlived, they see the study of wizardry as something to kill time with <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />. Seriously: While others might not take the path of the wizard because of years of learning, to an elf, a decade of studying the books might not seem that bad - it might just be their attention span, so they do study several years on a whim. Before I go into the whole elves-are-gods debate, I want to say that I do like elves. Most of my characters have been elves. I'd even like to have a tolkien-like noldor elf race: bonus on most ability scores, malus on none, immune to diseases. But of course, this elven race would have a level adjustment. They wouldn't be the ideal PC-race, unless you are willing to have a LA.I just want to comment on the subrace-thing. It's true, elves do have a lot of subraces, but I have two things to say about that. The fist thing is: So do dwarves, at least in the FR, where there are the most subraces for elves. There's also a dwarven tiefling race out there, just like for the elves.And the second thing is: Racial diversity is an elven feature just like pointed ears and a bond to nature are! Look at Tolkien's works: We have one dwarven race, one hobbit race, but several elven races. And even in the roots of elven legend, they had a dual nature: either there where light elves and dark elves, or the elves had two sides (sometimes literally, as some elves were said to have beautyful fronts but ugly backs). It's classical: elves come in flavors.</blockquote>

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