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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 1352785" data-attributes="member: 15538">Elves are what happened when Gygax said &quot;We need some elves in here.&quot;&nbsp; He wasn't a big Tolkien fan himself, although he was familiar.&nbsp; So they're part Tolkien, part Poul Anderson, a little Moorcock, and then humanized in a lot of ways.&nbsp; If 3.5 had been in my hands, I would have just gone ahead and given Wizard to Gnome and Sorcerer to Elves.&nbsp; That way, Gnomes could keep their illusionists, and have more of their own schtick besides &quot;sort of elvish, but in a dwarfish way.&quot;&nbsp; Dwarven skill + elvish magic, but with a focus on illusions specifically.&nbsp; Then Elves would be spontaneous casters, reflecting that magic is &quot;natural to the elves,&quot; which also has the nice side effect of ensuring lots of Elves have high Charisma scores.&nbsp; If I were in the business of slaughtering sacred cows, I might just go ahead and give Elves two Humanoid levels.&nbsp; That would get them lots of extra skill points, not too many extra hit points due to Constitution penalties, and would slow their advancement.&nbsp; That way they'd at least have something to show for their century of childhood.&nbsp; A ninety year old elf can't manage 5 ranks in Craft?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 1352785, member: 15538"] Elves are what happened when Gygax said "We need some elves in here." He wasn't a big Tolkien fan himself, although he was familiar. So they're part Tolkien, part Poul Anderson, a little Moorcock, and then humanized in a lot of ways. If 3.5 had been in my hands, I would have just gone ahead and given Wizard to Gnome and Sorcerer to Elves. That way, Gnomes could keep their illusionists, and have more of their own schtick besides "sort of elvish, but in a dwarfish way." Dwarven skill + elvish magic, but with a focus on illusions specifically. Then Elves would be spontaneous casters, reflecting that magic is "natural to the elves," which also has the nice side effect of ensuring lots of Elves have high Charisma scores. If I were in the business of slaughtering sacred cows, I might just go ahead and give Elves two Humanoid levels. That would get them lots of extra skill points, not too many extra hit points due to Constitution penalties, and would slow their advancement. That way they'd at least have something to show for their century of childhood. A ninety year old elf can't manage 5 ranks in Craft? [/QUOTE]

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