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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1355498" data-attributes="member: 4134">That's nonsense. He doesn't get an Int bonus, but he doesn't have to. You don't have to get a huge bonus to the prime Stat to be a great member of that class. Humans would be lousy wizards then, too.He can still be a great wizard. The -2 Con might be a slight problem, but you can compensate that, and you get +2 Dex, which is good since you don't wear any armor.Because they aren't the standard issue elf. They are quite insular (high elves are sociable enough and get on well with other races).Besides, they want to keep it simple with standard races. Grey Elves have too many ability adjustments.What about the elf who wants to see the world and see its peoples? That's not for your average grey elf.It's just balance. If you said: "Elves had a whole century, they should get thrice the skill points than other races because of that", you wouldn't be bashed only by the elf-bashers, but also by everyone else, for blatant munchkinism.Also, elves aren't stupid. They just don't rush things. They don't have to: They don't have to rush to get out of adolescence, like humans do. They can spend a whole century playing - they still have centuries to be an adult in afterwards. Also, they have more than just skills and one extra bonus feat, so they place less emphasis on them: They are immune to sleep, resistant to enchantments, can easily spot secret doors, can see twice as far in bad conditions, and they all know how to use the rapier, the long sword, and bows. They get, in fact, more than humans, but humans have more freedom in spending it.And where did you get the idea that elves have less skills? Let's see:Human, 1st level: (Class + Int + 1) *4. Say a wizard with 16 int: (2+3+1)*4 = 24Elf, 1st level: (Class + Int) *4 + 6 (+2 spot, +2 listen, +2 search). Wizard with 16 int: (2+3)*4 + 6 = 26. Humans get 4 extra points at level one, which they can spend where they want, but are limited by 4 ranks in each skill. Elves get 6 extra points which they get on listen, search, spot, and still can put 4 ranks in those skills, so they could effectively get +6, not including ability bonus, instead of 4.</blockquote>

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