Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
How close to the RAW did/do you play AD&D1?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5015124" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Yeah, this is the sort of wierd confusing thing you have to try to explain when you have not only repeating 20's, but a natural 20 doesn't actually always hit. </p><p></p><p>But, yes, AC 0 with a +1 bonus should literally be read as, "Use the AC 0 row of the attack matrix <em>but move up one</em>", just as the 'AC vs weapon modifer' literally means, 'Move up/down on the attack matrix by n rows'. For most purposes, it doesn't matter whether you think of this as adjusting the throw of the dice or the position on the table but it does matter a great deal for the repeating 20 portion of the table. </p><p></p><p>For example, you might think that an orc with a +1 bonus to hit needs a 19 to hit an AC -2 (because 19+1 = 20), but in fact, the +1 bonus actually just adjusts the row you read off down 1 which means the poor orc still needs a 20 to hit. The +1 bonus however does matter a good deal if the orc is facing an AC -7, because without that +1 bonus it can't hit the target number of 21, but since we have moved out of the range of the repeating 20's simple arthimatic works again (it doesn't matter if we move down to the -6 row or adjust the dice up to 21 by addition). Of course, in point of fact, that AC -7 is probably actually an AC 2 with a +9 bonus (at least in the case of a PC), meaning you move up 9 rows on the table and read of the -7 line, then adjust back down for the orcs +1 to hit bonus, and so read off the -6 line.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5015124, member: 4937"] Yeah, this is the sort of wierd confusing thing you have to try to explain when you have not only repeating 20's, but a natural 20 doesn't actually always hit. But, yes, AC 0 with a +1 bonus should literally be read as, "Use the AC 0 row of the attack matrix [I]but move up one[/I]", just as the 'AC vs weapon modifer' literally means, 'Move up/down on the attack matrix by n rows'. For most purposes, it doesn't matter whether you think of this as adjusting the throw of the dice or the position on the table but it does matter a great deal for the repeating 20 portion of the table. For example, you might think that an orc with a +1 bonus to hit needs a 19 to hit an AC -2 (because 19+1 = 20), but in fact, the +1 bonus actually just adjusts the row you read off down 1 which means the poor orc still needs a 20 to hit. The +1 bonus however does matter a good deal if the orc is facing an AC -7, because without that +1 bonus it can't hit the target number of 21, but since we have moved out of the range of the repeating 20's simple arthimatic works again (it doesn't matter if we move down to the -6 row or adjust the dice up to 21 by addition). Of course, in point of fact, that AC -7 is probably actually an AC 2 with a +9 bonus (at least in the case of a PC), meaning you move up 9 rows on the table and read of the -7 line, then adjust back down for the orcs +1 to hit bonus, and so read off the -6 line. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
How close to the RAW did/do you play AD&D1?
Top